Re: [orca-list] GUI Redesign or clearup and modernization

[Tony Baechler <tony baechler net>]

On 9/1/2015 10:24 AM, B. Henry wrote:
> Well, it's not unreasonalble to ask users to read a bit of documentation to learn a keystroke or two when 
> trying a new desktop, but unless I'm missing
> something folks like myself who use a window manager such as fluxbox and fill in accessibility gaps with 
> custom scripts would be left out in the cold if
> an orca prefs window was done away with.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.  I think that in this case, it is 
unreasonable to expect people to be required to read documentation in order 
to figure out how to set their Orca prefs.  That attitude in general is why 
so many people, both blind and sighted, either are put off by Linux, won't 
try it in the first place or give up without ever installing it and giving 
it a fair chance.  I don't have a problem expecting people to read a basic 
accessibility guide and I agree that once people have learned the basics 
that they should be expected to read the docs, but expecting them to read 
the docs before they even get started is asking too much.  Other than your 
first statement, I agree with what I think you're trying to say.  I think 
you're agreeing with my previous post on the subject which is that 
regardless of what desktop or window manager, there needs to be a universal 
keystroke to access the Orca prefs.  I don't think people should have to 
read the docs to find it, however.

What would be good is for Orca to open the prefs window automatically when 
it's started from a live environment so people don't have to hunt around to 
find them.  Maybe could a command line switch like --prefs be added for 
this?  I thought there was already such a switch, but I didn't see it when 
reading "orca --help" on my Ubuntu MATE 15.04 system.