For many people braille is somewhere between very inmportant and indespensible, but many who who could
benefit do not have access to it. It's a catch
22, i.e. you need a decent job to afford even a reliable used braille device, and may need the braille device
to get that job.
I do hope that osme of the projects working on lowering the cost of braille displays bare fruit soon.
I've never had a braille device, but can not emagine trying to do higher math just listening to it, and
having to transcribe every equation one solves
is quit the burden on a young person who may be struggling with the subject matter as is.
Just saying that I see Kyle's point, i.e. some ppl complain just to complain and do nothing to help
themselves, but braille is more than a whim for
many.
I'd love to have a braille device if anyone has an extra they want to give me or sell onb a payment plan, but
my need is not so great although it
would help me learn to code quite a lot I suspect...
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B.H.
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Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 12:44:51PM -0400
I didn't get the Focus 40 to work with Orca, but was too busy with other things to follow up so certainly didn't way to complain. I did get Grade 1 or computer Braille with the console, including when testing for it using the Debian 8 net install CD. I have no opinion on the quality of Braille support, but presumed that the person who wrote about problems yesterday had a point about the Braille. What he implied about Linux more broadly is another matter. Al On 09/02/2015 12:07 PM, kendell clark wrote:hi You sound like a good user to ask. How is the braille support? i'm assuming it's not terrible, else you'd have joined in with the "windows is better" crowd Thanks Kendell clark On 9/2/2015 11:03 AM, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:The rant below is needless and off-target. My wife and I are not "tntitlement babies," having bought our own BrailleNote in the old days when I had a decent job and having bought a used PACMate last year because the BrailleNote finally crashed like an airplane. Recently, we borrowed two Focus 40s from a technology lending program, partly so I could play with one on my Linux machine and partly to see if it would help my wife with a paying job she's doing for a small publisher. If we get lucky, family help might enable up to buy the Braille2Go from National Braille Press, but it's nothing we claim an entitlement to. In short, we are heavy-duty Braille users. Sometimes, there's just nothing like it. We are not simply guzzling at the government fauct, however. I'd use Braille a lot more if I could afford a display to use it on, and would certainly bring attention to problems--and would try to fix those I could. I close by noting that, whatever legitimate frustration there may be with some posts, and I doubt there's much), I was surprised by the broad swipe of the comments below, especially from one of the most helpful people I know. Al On 09/02/2015 11:08 AM, Kyle wrote:Sorry for the upcoming rant, but some of this nonsense I'm seeing drove me to it. I can still build an 8-core x86_64 computer for less money than it currently costs to purchase even the least expensive open source braille displays, which are still costly prototypes. Once braille becomes as affordable as say for instance a computer monitor, then maybe more people will have the means to code for them, and braille won't be just for lucky blind government entitlement babies anymore. Until then, braille is always going to be too expensive to get enough people working on to improve it. Sorry, that's just the way it is. And no, I didn't use braille back in the days when I had access to Windows either, because I'm not a blind government baby who expected all the expensive stuff to be handed to me like I'm entitled to it or something, which is also why I use Linux now and help where I can to raise awareness and to contribute where I can to its development and wider usage by *all* people, not just entitlement blinks. No, Linux isn't "catching up" as you Microsoft and Apple lovers so eloquently put it. It's here, and it's far ahead of anything else you could be using. So get used to it. Sent from my Cancerian beast _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org_______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org_______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
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