Re: [orca-list] GUI Redesign or clearup and modernization

[Al Sten-Clanton <albert e sten_clanton verizon net>]

I didn't get the Focus 40 to work with Orca, but was too busy with other 
things to follow up so certainly didn't way to complain.  I did get 
Grade 1 or computer Braille with the console, including when testing for 
it using the Debian 8 net install CD.  I have no opinion on the quality 
of Braille support, but presumed that the person who wrote about 
problems yesterday had a point about the Braille.  What he implied about 
Linux more broadly is another matter.

Al

On 09/02/2015 12:07 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> hi
> You sound like a good user to ask. How is the braille support? i'm
> assuming it's not terrible, else you'd have joined in with the "windows
> is better" crowd
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
>
> On 9/2/2015 11:03 AM, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> > The rant below is needless and off-target.  My wife and I are not
> > "tntitlement babies," having bought our own BrailleNote in the old
> > days when I had a decent job and having bought a used PACMate last
> > year because the BrailleNote finally crashed like an airplane.
> > Recently, we borrowed two Focus 40s from a technology lending program,
> > partly so I could play with one on my Linux machine and partly to see
> > if it would help my wife with a paying job she's doing for a small
> > publisher.  If we get lucky, family help might enable up to buy the
> > Braille2Go from National Braille Press, but it's nothing we claim an
> > entitlement to.
> >
> > In short, we are heavy-duty Braille users.  Sometimes, there's just
> > nothing like it.  We are not simply guzzling at the government fauct,
> > however.  I'd use Braille a lot more if I could afford a display to
> > use it on, and would certainly bring attention to problems--and would
> > try to fix those I could.
> >
> > I close by noting that, whatever legitimate frustration there may be
> > with some posts, and I doubt there's much), I was surprised by the
> > broad swipe of the comments below, especially from one of the most
> > helpful people I know.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > On 09/02/2015 11:08 AM, Kyle wrote:
> > > Sorry for the upcoming rant, but some of this nonsense I'm seeing drove
> > > me to it.
> > >
> > > I can still build an 8-core x86_64 computer for less money than it
> > > currently costs to purchase even the least expensive open source
> > > braille displays, which are still costly prototypes. Once braille
> > > becomes as affordable as say for instance a computer monitor, then
> > > maybe more people will have the means to code for them, and braille
> > > won't be just for lucky blind government entitlement babies anymore.
> > > Until then, braille is always going to be too expensive to get enough
> > > people working on to improve it. Sorry, that's just the way it is. And
> > > no, I didn't use braille back in the days when I had access to Windows
> > > either, because I'm not a blind government baby who expected all the
> > > expensive stuff to be handed to me like I'm entitled to it or
> > > something, which is also why I use Linux now and help where I can to
> > > raise awareness and to contribute where I can to its development and
> > > wider usage by *all* people, not just entitlement blinks. No, Linux
> > > isn't "catching up" as you Microsoft and Apple lovers so eloquently put
> > > it. It's here, and it's far ahead of anything else you could be using.
> > > So get used to it.
> > > Sent from my Cancerian beast
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