Re: [orca-list] Is anyone still using the Orca console setup?

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hi Willem.

Thanks for your input. I hope you don't mind my CCing the Orca list. I
want to get all the opinions where everyone can see them.

I do have a follow-up question for you. Below, you stated "it is very
useful in the cases where the gui got stuffed for some or other reason."
Could you please elaborate with a concrete example so that I can better
understand this use case and how the console setup (if it worked)
addresses it whereas the other command-line options fail to?

Thanks!
--joanie

On 11/10/2015 12:33 AM, Willem van der Walt wrote:
> Hi,
> As an infrequent user of Orca, I have actually used the console setup
> before, (years ago), to get back a working GUI.
> I would think it is clearly a bug with very low priority, but should
> rather be fixed than the code be taken out, as it is very useful in the
> cases where the gui got stuffed for some or other reason.
> FWIW, Willem
>
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
>
> > Hey all.
> >
> > As part of testing the changes I am making to break up the key echo
> > settings into more configurable parts, I noticed that the preferences
> > configured in the console setup are not getting written out or used
> > correctly. So the console setup is pretty much useless. It seems equally
> > broken in 3.16 and 3.14 and 3.12 and 3.10 (and maybe even earlier, but I
> > stopped trying).
> >
> > Therefore, unless something is weird/busted in my environment (which
> > I've not dug into yet), my guess is that the answer to the question I
> > asked in the subject is: "No, Joanie, we are not, and we haven't in
> > quite some time."
> >
> > Before I debug and fix something which potentially no one is using or
> > has a need for, I figured I'd ask you all what (if any) purpose console
> > setup still serves?
> >
> > As a reminder, to meet various configuration needs you can:
> >
> > 1. Launch the GUI setup with orca -s or orca --setup. This you might
> >   wish to do if, for instance, you were on a laptop and couldn't use
> >   Insert+Space to get into the preferences dialog to switch to laptop
> >   layout.
> > 2. Move or remove your $HOME/.local/share/orca directory if your
> >   settings are totally borked.
> > 3. Launch Orca with -u/--user-prefs followed by the path for an
> >   alternate preferences location.
> >
> > And as another reminder, the only things you were ever able to configure
> > in the console setup -- when it actually works -- is speech synthesizer,
> > whether or not to use braille, and the type of keyecho to use.
> >
> > So what is the use case for which you need to set up Orca (which
> > requires a GUI desktop environment in which to run) but lack a GUI
> > desktop environment in which to set it up? And how critical is this use
> > case given that it looks like it may have been going unmet for quite a
> > while now without anyone screaming in pain and horror?
> >
> > Thoughts?
> > --joanie
> >
> >
> >
> >
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