Re: [orca-list] Is anyone still using the Orca console setup?

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

by console setup do you mean orca -t?
I've not used this in a long time myself, and certainly since you added the -s option I can not see the need 
for this. 
I don't understand the stuck gui thing, i.e. if the gui is stuck one would need to either restart x or reboot 
anyway which would hopefully "unstick" the 
gui, and if it did not reconfiguring orca would hardly be of great value...lol.
The main reason, only one I can really think of for keeping this is that I know many people have perhaps not 
migrated to a new distro/release yet or 
have recentlyu done so and have not yet learned of -s. I've seen -t recommended with in the last several 
months a time or two. That legacy compatability 
is not a good enough reason to keep this forever in my opinion, but perhaps if debugging|fixing the function 
turns out to be relatively fst and easy it 
is worth keeping until
  the next time it breaks.
If we are not even talking about orca -t then there is something else I am not even aware of, so from my 
perspective it's even less important...smile

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     B.H.
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  Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:43:51AM -0500

> Hi Willem.
>
> Thanks for your input. I hope you don't mind my CCing the Orca list. I
> want to get all the opinions where everyone can see them.
>
> I do have a follow-up question for you. Below, you stated "it is very
> useful in the cases where the gui got stuffed for some or other reason."
> Could you please elaborate with a concrete example so that I can better
> understand this use case and how the console setup (if it worked)
> addresses it whereas the other command-line options fail to?
>
> Thanks!
> --joanie
>
> On 11/10/2015 12:33 AM, Willem van der Walt wrote:
> > Hi,
> > As an infrequent user of Orca, I have actually used the console setup
> > before, (years ago), to get back a working GUI.
> > I would think it is clearly a bug with very low priority, but should
> > rather be fixed than the code be taken out, as it is very useful in the
> > cases where the gui got stuffed for some or other reason.
> > FWIW, Willem
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all.
> > >
> > > As part of testing the changes I am making to break up the key echo
> > > settings into more configurable parts, I noticed that the preferences
> > > configured in the console setup are not getting written out or used
> > > correctly. So the console setup is pretty much useless. It seems equally
> > > broken in 3.16 and 3.14 and 3.12 and 3.10 (and maybe even earlier, but I
> > > stopped trying).
> > >
> > > Therefore, unless something is weird/busted in my environment (which
> > > I've not dug into yet), my guess is that the answer to the question I
> > > asked in the subject is: "No, Joanie, we are not, and we haven't in
> > > quite some time."
> > >
> > > Before I debug and fix something which potentially no one is using or
> > > has a need for, I figured I'd ask you all what (if any) purpose console
> > > setup still serves?
> > >
> > > As a reminder, to meet various configuration needs you can:
> > >
> > > 1. Launch the GUI setup with orca -s or orca --setup. This you might
> > >   wish to do if, for instance, you were on a laptop and couldn't use
> > >   Insert+Space to get into the preferences dialog to switch to laptop
> > >   layout.
> > > 2. Move or remove your $HOME/.local/share/orca directory if your
> > >   settings are totally borked.
> > > 3. Launch Orca with -u/--user-prefs followed by the path for an
> > >   alternate preferences location.
> > >
> > > And as another reminder, the only things you were ever able to configure
> > > in the console setup -- when it actually works -- is speech synthesizer,
> > > whether or not to use braille, and the type of keyecho to use.
> > >
> > > So what is the use case for which you need to set up Orca (which
> > > requires a GUI desktop environment in which to run) but lack a GUI
> > > desktop environment in which to set it up? And how critical is this use
> > > case given that it looks like it may have been going unmet for quite a
> > > while now without anyone screaming in pain and horror?
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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