Re: [orca-list] Is anyone still using the Orca console setup?
- From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
- To: Parham Doustdar <parham90 gmail com>
- Cc: Orca List <orca-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Is anyone still using the Orca console setup?
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 00:38:10 -0500
Hi Parham.
Hope you don't mind my CCing the Orca list so that we can have all the
opinions where people can see them.
--joanie
On 11/10/2015 12:26 AM, Parham Doustdar wrote:
I personally used it once, and that was when I typed "orca" in the
console and Orca asked me for keyboard echo and such before starting,
every time. So, no, I don't use it since I figured it doesn't work, and
I don't need it at all.
Hope this helps.
On 11/10/2015 8:47 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hey all.
As part of testing the changes I am making to break up the key echo
settings into more configurable parts, I noticed that the preferences
configured in the console setup are not getting written out or used
correctly. So the console setup is pretty much useless. It seems equally
broken in 3.16 and 3.14 and 3.12 and 3.10 (and maybe even earlier, but I
stopped trying).
Therefore, unless something is weird/busted in my environment (which
I've not dug into yet), my guess is that the answer to the question I
asked in the subject is: "No, Joanie, we are not, and we haven't in
quite some time."
Before I debug and fix something which potentially no one is using or
has a need for, I figured I'd ask you all what (if any) purpose console
setup still serves?
As a reminder, to meet various configuration needs you can:
1. Launch the GUI setup with orca -s or orca --setup. This you might
wish to do if, for instance, you were on a laptop and couldn't use
Insert+Space to get into the preferences dialog to switch to laptop
layout.
2. Move or remove your $HOME/.local/share/orca directory if your
settings are totally borked.
3. Launch Orca with -u/--user-prefs followed by the path for an
alternate preferences location.
And as another reminder, the only things you were ever able to configure
in the console setup -- when it actually works -- is speech synthesizer,
whether or not to use braille, and the type of keyecho to use.
So what is the use case for which you need to set up Orca (which
requires a GUI desktop environment in which to run) but lack a GUI
desktop environment in which to set it up? And how critical is this use
case given that it looks like it may have been going unmet for quite a
while now without anyone screaming in pain and horror?
Thoughts?
--joanie
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