Re: [orca-list] why Skype works in Ubuntu 15.04

["B.Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

I think the point is there are cases and places when one can promote 
free alternatives and see direct results. There are other cases where no 
one much will pay attention to you other than the already converted. If 
you refuse to interact with people who for any one of many reasons are 
currently using the non-free alternative then not only will you miss out 
on something in the moment, or they will miss out on something, but you 
will miss the chance to explain the advantages you see in FOS down the 
line when they are more likely to listen to you.
I am not singling out any person or persons, but also one  must 
understand that the starving man can't say "I won't eat that bread 
because it's not certified organic.", and live to fight for reduction in 
the use of harmful chemicals in food production. Most people in the 
world do not have a gov. safety net that they can depend on to keep 
themselves and their families going till they find work and study 
opportunities that meet the standards of the FSF. It is much easier for 
someone in the U.S. or some E.U. country whos monthly benefits  while 
unemployed exceed the yearly earnings for any one of many hundreds of 
millions to say that they'd not take some job because they feel strongly 
about free software than it is for someone who has no such guaranteed 
income. (and I'm not just talking cash payments...)
Should all blind people not have used computers at all before there was 
NVDA, Orca or Speakup? We can work for change in many different ways, 
and honestly using or not using  some free or non-free program or 
another is not the only thing one can do, nor even the most effective 
thing that one can do to promote more software freedom. Certainly not 
using non-free software can be an important part of an overall strategy 
for the promotion of FOS, but being understanding of those who can't do 
this at times, or can't be a purist will go farther towards bringing 
people to use FOS stuph than being  judgmental and assuming that people 
don't use the free alternative because they are lazy or stupid. Many 
people are lazy and stupid, but even some of them can and will learn 
over time...lol
    One last case and I must get on with things: If I waste an hour a 
day using a less efficient program or 3 because they are FOS and the 
other option(s that are easier or faster to use are not free software 
then all that time can't go in to learning how to program so I can fix 
things, or showing people the ready for prime time FOS software that is 
out here.
Fortunately I seldom need to use proprietary software, but I"m neither 
going to pat myself on the backi for this nor feel guilty for the times 
when I need to use Skype, Kurzweil reader, etc.
And one more thing no matter how you feel about what I've said so far: 
If you want to educate someone about anything, or try and change their 
opinion about something, make as sure as you possibly can to not take 
things out of context or say something is or isn't when facts do not 
back you up. Don't state opinion as fact, and when your facts are out of 
date or you just plain made a mistake be happy to admit it. If people do 
not feel you are a reliable information source then even when you are 
correct folks won't believe it.
AGain, nothing in this is aimed at any one person. I just wanted to tie 
up a few loose ends as it were.


     B.H.
   Registerd Linux User 521886

On 14/05/15 11:12 AM, Dave Hunt wrote:
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> If people weren't interested in making things happen  with the free
> stuff, we wouldn't have GNU/Linux gui and associated apps.  In your
> language learning example, I'd exhaust local and free options, first.
>   Re:  my family, we use the phone and email. Had I gotten to them
> sooner, they'd be on Trisquel.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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