Hi, Lol what's the point in being involved with free software if you just run back to the proprietary crap every time there's a glitch? I don't use skype, I won't use skype, end of story. In all honesty, it's not for the whole proprietary issue, but the lack of skype accessibility in 64 bit Linux. x ASure there's people who wonn't accomidate by switching to something free that I can use, but in 99.9% of cases those people really aren't worth talking to anyway. In the other .1%, there's http://talky.io. Surely even the most computer newbie can open their browser and type in an address. If not, they probably don't need to be using said computer... lol. Oh, and talky doesn't require installing anything. So, if you can skype, you can talky. Hell, even if you can't skype you can talky, all you need are headphones and a mic. Storm On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:55:46AM -0500, Alex Midence wrote:
Again, the key word here is "have to" not "choose to." Some people need to use it whether they want to or not. I'll give you a use case: There is a service out there for people interested in learning a second language that, in turn, provides employment to teachers in other countries. The way it works is, you sign up for a given language like ... say ... Vietnamese. You then are assigned an actual native speaker as a tutor in Vietnam itself who is going to sit with you over video chat and coach you through your lesson for a small fee like $10 per course. (Ten bucks goes a long way in some countries.) The kicker is that this service relies on Skype for you to communicate with their people. They won't use Ekiga, Linphone or whatever other, to them, obscure and unknown service out there. If you are a teacher hired by this firm, what do you do? Do you say: "No, I'm sorry, have my paying students use Ekiga if they want to talk to me. Send them the instructions and documentation on how to use it please." Nor could the prospective students get stubborn and boycott them because they use a non-free chat servic e to deliver the courses they offer. If you do that, you cheat yourself out of an inexpensive way to study the language of your choice with a native speaker. It's all well and good to tell people about all these free software alternatives out there but, just turning your back on well-established products that the rest of the world uses is not the anser. Aunt Betsy and uncle George want to skype with you, not Ekiga with you. Finding a way to make it happen seems more productive to me. Alex M -----Original Message----- From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Dave Hunt Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:32 AM To: orca-list gnome org Subject: Re: [orca-list] why Skype works in Ubuntu 15.04 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I don't use the non-free stuff. On 05/14/2015 11:22 AM, Alex Midence wrote:What do you do if you have to use the non-free stuff?-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVVL/sAAoJEKZSBs4o7rSbvcAH/jM8G7PL1kCI78LtJp2cu4KS 70rTihuhDUVYR+KSdg8NGWj7Ys8Mq7ISU3mRkx+EJhqM1VrCfMy+FGXAraNsdCVE /mCUxZAmOX6GXATCOhFOU4wQmEeCN83RyXyBTGTk3qsKiMkRuAivv1Bg9dWNl/fq VyXcSarRaiZ6o/4sqzZDy52yCps9N6Luy5z8RM/xDyr6o4y6zSgN3FEUO9+hnTcc uY7MGi5SN//0y2/3lZ5fP9uiFnINq4jaVth3Yk/uLQgrb8yYMJEjI6nLJXBFfgXc DQIu1JqtGglfkBFstgQBCNHUAMnj5MD2M5n2rutwZDFGmHxvG24rcWR1ovP+DDw= =w+vH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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