Re: [orca-list] Internet

["B.Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

Unless things have changed NVDA default is to present links as they 
appear, or as close as is possible. I think your GF just likes the jaws 
way and set things to show one per line.
NVDA is a great screenreadr in most ways, but I do agree that to anyone 
not familar with nvda dev history or who doesn't know a bit of the 
technical terminology  used for stuff under the hood can be confused by 
the menus.
There are only three main submenus that can be confusing I think, but 
they need to have them where one can explore one, maybe make changes, 
and then go to another instead of having to reopen menus for each 
submenu and a potential small set of modifications.
Being able to configure everything at once is such a pleasure in 
comparison, and I'm sure glad orca has managed its menus as it always has.

     B.H.
   Registerd Linux User 521886

On 16/05/15 06:08 PM, kendell clark wrote:
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> hi
> I agree with christopher on this one. I've used nvda before, though
> thankfully not recently, and while it's not as bad as kyle says it can
> be, it's got it's share of bugs, one of which is the presenting of one
> link per line. Yes, this can be toggled off, but nvda's preferences
> system is even more complicated than orca's, and I never can remember
> where the option I want is. I find orca's system much better, and
> there's always the o to jump past a block of links for pages who don't
> know how to mark themselves up well
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
>
> Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> > I use Windows screen readers that break web sites up as you
> > describe and Orca which doesn't, and I very much prefer the way
> > Orca does it. If this is implemented, I hope it is a configurable
> > option, and I hope it isn't made the default. Of course, I'm just
> > one user, but this is my opinion.
> >
> > I find reading web sites is much more efficient the way Orca does
> > it. With the press of one down arrow key, I jump past the row of
> > links found at the top of many a page. If I want to jump from link
> > to link one link at a time, I always have the tab key, which will
> > do this for me.
> >
> > Orca also gives me a sense of how the page is laid out for a
> > sighted user, which helps a lot when someone is explaining to me
> > what to do on a page or even when I'm explaining something on a web
> > site to a sighted user.
> >
> > I'm all for taking the best ideas from wherever they come from, but
> > I think the way Orca does it is the superior way. I came to Linux
> > and Orca from Windows, but I'm opposed to implementing something in
> > Orca just because that's how it's implemented in a Windows screen
> > reader. If a Windows screen reader got it right then let's use it,
> > but I don't think we're doing Windows users any favors if we don't
> > introduce them to a better way of doing things.
> >
> > On 05/16/2015 02:06 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Today, Orca, on a line of links, says: Home Link 1 Link 2 Link 3
> > >
> > > How could we ship a mode to make orca speak one link per line?
> > > Home link 1 link 2
> > >
> > > Is it hard? Just to let user choose (not obligation). Possible?
> > > Can you give me info to tell devs?
> > >
> > > Regards,
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