Re: [orca-list] Orca now has preliminary support for object mode / non-layout mode. Yes. Really.

[Francisco Javier Dorado Martínez <javier tiflolinux org>]

Hi Joanie, all
On 12/09/14 16:03, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey Javier.
>
> Thanks for the feedback. Regarding your specific point:
>
> If you mean the GNOME feature proposal, that has nothing to do with 
> us. The feature-proposal period is to propose and discuss things which 
> impact GNOME as a whole. Adding object mode to Orca is not something I 
> need to get approval for or even propose. Furthermore, if I did 
> propose it to the full GNOME community during this period, it would 
> just be seen as noise. Object mode (like pretty much all other things 
> in Orca) doesn't impact GNOME as a whole, it just impacts Orca users. 
> So we discuss it and make decisions here on the Orca list.
Maybe, but Orca is a piece fundamental in the GNOME desktop, no only for 
Orca users <smiles>
When I say proposal I mean for the next cycle We are going to work on 
x,y z and isn't that a proposal for the next 3.16 on accessibility? 
don't understand proposals yet <smiles>

> Where things get tricky is when there is a freeze. For instance, if I 
> want to add this GUI option to 3.14 I need to justify it. And when the 
> explanation includes "this is a new feature I just added right before 
> code freeze," the answer is typically "no." As for it being a question 
> of time: The core functionality is already committed. The GUI change 
> will be committed (just to master) in a little while. The need for a 
> command at all, let alone the binding, is still being debated. But if 
> we agree there should be a command that, too, is an easy fix.
Oh my! But I am sure that this feature is going to work perfect, nothing 
of relativity <lol>.

> Before code freeze I plan to do some of the refining based on the 
> feedback. Long way of saying, 
while I'm doing this quickly and have sacrificed sleep to accomplish it, 
we still have plenty of time.
Sleep? I propose sleep feature for the next release if possible!

> <smiles> This feature shall be included in GNOME 3.14 and I expect 
> that it shall work relatively well. Question is whether or not I ask 
> for a freeze break for the GUI. (I'm now thinking no for the command, 
> even if we add it.)
Unbind it by default, I don't like the idea to changing profiles only 
for switching layourt/object browsing...

Take care,
regards,
Javier