Re: [orca-list] Unable to log into My Medicare .Gov

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

Well, I restarted the GUI after I noticed that I was somehow in Laptop
Mode, not correct in this instance.

Now everything works, and I can't seem to break it, even by putting
myself back in Laptop Mode temporarily.

So, I don't know what to think--except that it seems to have been some
kind of transient artifact. Perhaps some complication of jumping to
3.14.0 on a Fedora 20 machine? -- Which is otherwise all GNOME 3.12?

For instance gnome-terminal is unhealthy. Pretty much any command gives
me

Nodelevel()
Error getting relationset

Also, suddenly I can't launch anything from either the terminal or from
Alt+F2. So, maybe that is the explanation. I'm in never-neverland
between 3.12 and 3.14?

Time to restart again! <grin>

BTW: I'm up to Firefox 33 as of a couple days ago.


Joanmarie Diggs writes:
> Hey Janina.
>
> On 10/21/2014 09:07 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > Sometimes I hear Focus Mode when I tab to the Username field, but
> > usually not. And, pressing Orca+A doesn't resolve the issue.
>
> That's odd, if I move from before the Username field to the Username
> field by pressing Tab, Orca always announces that I'm in Focus mode and
> I can type your full first name. I can also type your full first name if
> I Shift+Tab into the Username field from the Password field, though in
> that case Orca doesn't announce the mode switch because the mode already
> switched to Focus mode as a result of the fields I'd come from (e.g. the
> Password field). And having learned my lesson from Peter and José, I
> have confirmed that this works both on my Desktop and my Laptop.
> <smiles> I'm using Firefox 32.0.2 with Orca master.
>
> When you press Orca+A, in the Username field, does Orca confirm the mode
> switch? (i.e. Orca is getting your keystroke and responding to it)
>
> I still want to get to the bottom of the problem you're having, but in
> terms of just making this site something you can log into.... Once
> you're in the entry, does manually toggling off structural navigation
> with Orca+Z make input possible?
>
> --joanie
>
> > I can enter a j, but when I type the a of my username, I'm bounced out.
> >
> > Janina
> >
> > Joanmarie Diggs writes:
> > > Hey Janina.
> > >
> > > My guess is that it's the new focus mode / browse mode changes. Here's
> > > how thing work now:
> > >
> > > * Browse mode is for reading content; Focus mode is for interacting with
> > >   it. You can always toggle these modes manually via Orca + A.
> > >
> > > * If you navigate to a widget using Tab, clicking, etc., Orca will put
> > >   you into focus mode if that widget is one where Orca commands and
> > >   native commands conflict. The rationale is that you got there by
> > >   native commands so Orca should not then interfere with your ability to
> > >   interact with that widget. Based on what you described, my guess is
> > >   that you didn't use Tab, clicking, etc. to get to that first entry.
> > >   Which brings me to:
> > >
> > > * If you navigate to a widget using Orca's structural navigation quick
> > >   keys or Orca's caret navigation, Orca will put you in focus mode only
> > >   if you have enabled Orca's setting to automatically switch to focus
> > >   mode when using that navigation method. By default, Orca does not
> > >   automatically switch to focus mode for either structural navigation
> > >   quick keys or caret navigation. Assuming you haven't changed your
> > >   preferences, which it sounds like you have not, then you'll need to
> > >   toggle Focus mode on via Orca + A in order to input text into that
> > >   entry.
> > >
> > > * In the Orca prefs for Firefox (Ctrl + Orca + Space whilst in Firefox),
> > >   on the Firefox page, you'll find the check boxes to modify the above
> > >   settings:
> > >
> > >   a. Automatic focus mode during caret navigation
> > >   b. Automatic focus mode during structural navigation
> > >
> > >   As mentioned above, both are unchecked by default.
> > >
> > > Hopefully that will solve your immediate issue. Please let me know.
> > >
> > > A couple more things worth noting: If you were to continue to use
> > > non-Orca commands to navigate (e.g. Tab from that entry to a link or a
> > > checkbox or something else that can be interacted with in Browse mode)
> > > Orca will put you in Browse mode. This is meant to minimize your need
> > > for manual mode switching and (I hope) will do what you expect nearly
> > > all the time. However, you may be in a web app where you always want to
> > > use that web app's (or browser's) native navigation no matter what. If
> > > so you can set Focus mode to "sticky" by double-clicking Orca + A. Then
> > > Orca will just get out of your way and stay out of it until you use Orca
> > > + A to return to Browse mode or load a new page within that tab.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps!
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On 10/21/2014 08:03 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > It's probably me, but I'm massively befuddled. I'm trying to access my
> > > > account data on https://www.mymedicare.gov/default.aspx and find I'm
> > > > unable to enter my login. I have no problem entering my password, but
> > > > any char I type in the username field is jumping me to some other part
> > > > of the page, beginning at the second char I type.
> > > >
> > > > So, is it me? Or Memorex?
> > > >
> > > > Help!
> > > >
> > > > Janina

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