Re: [orca-list] Unable to log into My Medicare .Gov

[Francisco Javier Dorado Martínez <javier tiflolinux org>]

Hi guys

What I have seen odd, is when I open a site and focus is set into a form 
field, Orca says "focus mode" but that is not true until we press tab 
and shift tab.

1. Open Firefox
2. Open www.google.com
3. Focus is on a combo where you have to enter what you are looking for.
4. Orca says combo focus mode
5. Try typing something E.G help

Although Orca says focus mode is enabled, the h key moves you to next 
heading.
When you press tab and then shift + tab, or activate focus mode by orca 
+a,  Orca says "focus mode" and works as expected

Can you confirm this?

Regards,
take care
Javier

On 21/10/14 20:07, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Hi, Joanie:
>
> Yeah, I double-checked the instructions for Focus Mode before posting.
> It was also my first thought.
>
> But, there's something else going on, I'm pretty sure. I've used Tab and
> Shift-Tab going back and forth between Username and Password.
>
> Orca always says "Focus Mode" when I tab into the password field, and
> there's no problem entering data there.
>
> Sometimes I hear Focus Mode when I tab to the Username field, but
> usually not. And, pressing Orca+A doesn't resolve the issue.
>
> I can enter a j, but when I type the a of my username, I'm bounced out.
>
> Janina
>
> Joanmarie Diggs writes:
> > Hey Janina.
> >
> > My guess is that it's the new focus mode / browse mode changes. Here's
> > how thing work now:
> >
> > * Browse mode is for reading content; Focus mode is for interacting with
> >    it. You can always toggle these modes manually via Orca + A.
> >
> > * If you navigate to a widget using Tab, clicking, etc., Orca will put
> >    you into focus mode if that widget is one where Orca commands and
> >    native commands conflict. The rationale is that you got there by
> >    native commands so Orca should not then interfere with your ability to
> >    interact with that widget. Based on what you described, my guess is
> >    that you didn't use Tab, clicking, etc. to get to that first entry.
> >    Which brings me to:
> >
> > * If you navigate to a widget using Orca's structural navigation quick
> >    keys or Orca's caret navigation, Orca will put you in focus mode only
> >    if you have enabled Orca's setting to automatically switch to focus
> >    mode when using that navigation method. By default, Orca does not
> >    automatically switch to focus mode for either structural navigation
> >    quick keys or caret navigation. Assuming you haven't changed your
> >    preferences, which it sounds like you have not, then you'll need to
> >    toggle Focus mode on via Orca + A in order to input text into that
> >    entry.
> >
> > * In the Orca prefs for Firefox (Ctrl + Orca + Space whilst in Firefox),
> >    on the Firefox page, you'll find the check boxes to modify the above
> >    settings:
> >
> >    a. Automatic focus mode during caret navigation
> >    b. Automatic focus mode during structural navigation
> >
> >    As mentioned above, both are unchecked by default.
> >
> > Hopefully that will solve your immediate issue. Please let me know.
> >
> > A couple more things worth noting: If you were to continue to use
> > non-Orca commands to navigate (e.g. Tab from that entry to a link or a
> > checkbox or something else that can be interacted with in Browse mode)
> > Orca will put you in Browse mode. This is meant to minimize your need
> > for manual mode switching and (I hope) will do what you expect nearly
> > all the time. However, you may be in a web app where you always want to
> > use that web app's (or browser's) native navigation no matter what. If
> > so you can set Focus mode to "sticky" by double-clicking Orca + A. Then
> > Orca will just get out of your way and stay out of it until you use Orca
> > + A to return to Browse mode or load a new page within that tab.
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 10/21/2014 08:03 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > It's probably me, but I'm massively befuddled. I'm trying to access my
> > > account data on https://www.mymedicare.gov/default.aspx and find I'm
> > > unable to enter my login. I have no problem entering my password, but
> > > any char I type in the username field is jumping me to some other part
> > > of the page, beginning at the second char I type.
> > >
> > > So, is it me? Or Memorex?
> > >
> > > Help!
> > >
> > > Janina