Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players

From: kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>
To: Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>, mike raspberryvi org, orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:43:24 -0600

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hi
Could everyone give me their experiences with wx widgets, both version
2.8 and 3.0 on linux? What does/does not work? What sort of works,
etc? So I can file a bug against them and get them fixed. Joanie,
would you mind helping me with this one? I can file the bugs but I
don't know how to debug, or how to tell them how to fix them if they
ask, because I suspect this was not deliberate, just them not knowing
much about linux a11y
Thanks
Kendell clark

On 11/19/2014 04:18 PM, Alex Midence wrote:

Typically, menus are relatively accessible.  Dialogs are about 75%
accessible and text areas such as what would probably be the place
that displays the book contents are not at all accessible.

Alex M


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[mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of kendell clark 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:22 PM To: mike raspberryvi org;
orca-list gnome org Subject: Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for
wanting daisy players

hi Not all of them are. Some are, some aren't. It mostly depends on
the app that's using them. Dolphin emulator for example is almost
inaccessible. Just barely usable enough to set up the controllers
and launch games, but the game list is inaccessible. It might or
might not work in windows, last time I tried it I ran into the this
program can't start because etc etc.dll is not found, and didn't
want to mess with it Thanks Kendell clark


On 11/18/2014 05:16 PM, Mike Ray wrote:

I didn't know wxWidgets was inaccessible on Linux.  Works nicely
with NVDA on Windows :)

On 18/11/2014 22:45, Alex Midence wrote:

FSreader is awesome.  I use it every day at work for business
books and trainers' publications.  It lets you navigate by
chapter, section and subsection if the book is divided that
way. A Linux-based Daisy Player that could do that would be
amazing because you could navigate the book/publication in a
non-linear way. If it can do Epub, PDF and other eBook formats,
it would surpass Fsreader which only does Daisy.  It would be
something along the lines of the Voicestream Reader for iPhone,
iPad and so forth which is, in my humble opinion, the single
most amazing eBook reader targeted at people with reading
disabilities on the market today.

Thanks. Alex M

-----Original Message----- From: orca-list 
[mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of kendell
clark Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:09 PM To: Orca List
Subject: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players

hi all I thought I'd write in to see if anyone else shared my
reasons for wanting a convenient daisy player. I won't talk
about the cainteoir thing that's a separate thread. Back when I
used windows, I used a program called fs reader to read my
daisy books. I don't use windows anymore, but my fiance mellisa
still does. If she wants to open a book, she will do: 1. Click
the fs reader icon on the desktop. It opens, she press alt+f to
open teh file menu, clicks 1, which is the last book she's
read. Assuming fs doesn't screw up, which it will do, it opens
the book in the exact place she left off, no messing around
with firefox, etc. If I want to open a book, I have to: open 
the file manager at my daisy books folder. Navigate to the
folder where my book is, which is not hard. Press enter on the
xml file, and wait, the amount of time depends on how large the
book is, for firefox to open. Hope orca will read the book,
sometimes it won't until I restart firefox. Hope the book is
marked up well enough that I can navigate by heading. If I want
to mark my place, I set a bookmark with orca, which is really
brilliant, by the way. I wish all screen readers had this
feature.  I have to do this every time I open a book, and hope
ff decides to read the book. If the book is extremely large,
sometimes it can take up to a minute before orca will read the
page. I've gotten used to this, but a program like fs reader,
but of course not proprietary, would really be convenient. I
could then click on the icon, navigate to teh book list, pick a
book, and open it, and have the cursor keep up with the 
navigation points. It's worth noting that if the book is marked
up badly or not at all, a daisy reader won't be any better than
firefox, but it will at the very least be faster with orca, and
will allow me to keep a list of books. This is more out of
convenience than anything. If t

he

application is written well, it will automatically recognize
new books and add them to the list, likewise with removing
books. Does anyone else share my views? I've seen a lot of
blind people who just don't seem that bothered about daisy, and
that's fine, but it's the format lots and lots of sites for the
blind use, and epub isn't here yet, so I need to be able to
handle it, and preferably with a minimum of fiddling. If
firefox were not so slow this wouldn't be nearly as important
an issue, but it hasn't really improved in this area. This is
*not* orca's fault, but rather an issue of speed in firefox
itself. This is off topic, so maybe people should email me off
list so as not to flood the list? This has little to do with
orca other than the fact that we'll be using orca to read the
books Thanks Kendell clark

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Follow-Ups:
- Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
  - From: Joanmarie Diggs

References:
- [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
  - From: kendell clark
- Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
  - From: Alex Midence
- Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
  - From: Mike Ray
- Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
  - From: kendell clark
- Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
  - From: Alex Midence

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