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Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players

Typically, menus are relatively accessible.  Dialogs are about 75% accessible and text areas such as what 
would probably be the place that displays the book contents are not at all accessible.  

Alex M


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From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of kendell clark
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:22 PM
To: mike raspberryvi org; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players

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hi
Not all of them are. Some are, some aren't. It mostly depends on the app that's using them. Dolphin emulator 
for example is almost inaccessible. Just barely usable enough to set up the controllers and launch games, but 
the game list is inaccessible. It might or might not work in windows, last time I tried it I ran into the 
this program can't start because etc etc.dll is not found, and didn't want to mess with it Thanks Kendell 
clark


On 11/18/2014 05:16 PM, Mike Ray wrote:


I didn't know wxWidgets was inaccessible on Linux.  Works nicely with 
NVDA on Windows :)



On 18/11/2014 22:45, Alex Midence wrote:

FSreader is awesome.  I use it every day at work for business books 
and trainers' publications.  It lets you navigate by chapter, section 
and subsection if the book is divided that way.
A Linux-based Daisy Player that could do that would be amazing 
because you could navigate the book/publication in a non-linear way.  
If it can do Epub, PDF and other eBook formats, it would surpass 
Fsreader which only does Daisy.  It would be something along the 
lines of the Voicestream Reader for iPhone, iPad and so forth which 
is, in my humble opinion, the single most amazing eBook reader 
targeted at people with reading disabilities on the market today.

Thanks. Alex M

-----Original Message----- From: orca-list 
[mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of kendell clark
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:09 PM To: Orca List Subject:
[orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players

hi all I thought I'd write in to see if anyone else shared my reasons 
for wanting a convenient daisy player. I won't talk about the 
cainteoir thing that's a separate thread. Back when I used windows, I 
used a program called fs reader to read my daisy books. I don't use 
windows anymore, but my fiance mellisa still does. If she wants to 
open a book, she will do: 1. Click the fs reader icon on the desktop. 
It opens, she press alt+f to open teh file menu, clicks 1, which is 
the last book she's read. Assuming fs doesn't screw up, which it will 
do, it opens the book in the exact place she left off, no messing 
around with firefox, etc. If I want to open a book, I have to: open 
the file manager at my daisy books folder. Navigate to the folder 
where my book is, which is not hard. Press enter on the xml file, and 
wait, the amount of time depends on how large the book is, for 
firefox to open. Hope orca will read the book, sometimes it won't 
until I restart firefox. Hope the book is marked up well enough that 
I can navigate by heading. If I want to mark my place, I set a 
bookmark with orca, which is really brilliant, by the way. I wish all 
screen readers had this feature.  I have to do this every time I open 
a book, and hope ff decides to read the book.
If the book is extremely large, sometimes it can take up to a minute 
before orca will read the page. I've gotten used to this, but a 
program like fs reader, but of course not proprietary, would really 
be convenient. I could then click on the icon, navigate to teh book 
list, pick a book, and open it, and have the cursor keep up with the 
navigation points. It's worth noting that if the book is marked up 
badly or not at all, a daisy reader won't be any better than firefox, 
but it will at the very least be faster with orca, and will allow me 
to keep a list of books.
This is more out of convenience than anything. If t

he

application is written well, it will automatically recognize new 
books and add them to the list, likewise with removing books.
Does anyone else share my views? I've seen a lot of blind people who 
just don't seem that bothered about daisy, and that's fine, but it's 
the format lots and lots of sites for the blind use, and epub isn't 
here yet, so I need to be able to  handle it, and preferably with a 
minimum of fiddling. If firefox were not so slow this wouldn't be 
nearly as important an issue, but it hasn't really improved in this 
area. This is *not* orca's fault, but rather an issue of speed in 
firefox itself. This is off topic, so maybe people should email me 
off list so as not to flood the list? This has little to do with orca 
other than the fact that we'll be using orca to read the books Thanks 
Kendell clark



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