Re: [orca-list] Changing the keybindings to be JAWS-like or

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

hi
My guess would be that he isn't saying he doesn't care about windows
users, he just doesn't care about the I'm from windows so everything
should be just like what I'm used to or I won't use it,  attitude that
is so common among windows users. There comes a certain point, after
they've demanded and whined,  when you just want to leave them to
windows so you don't have to put up with them. That said, if they're
polite, you don't mind showing them around orca. I"ve used jaws a bit,
not for quite a long time, and my experience with it is that jaws's
keystrokes have gotten more and more clunky and unintuitive. They have
so many shortcuts you have to press two and sometimes three modifiers
down to access whatever shortcut you want. Orca has never gotten to that
point.          

On 05/15/2014 09:20 AM, John Heim wrote:
> What you are really saying is that it's okay for it to be really hard to
> try linux.  That is what you have just said. You have to do all this
> research in advance, join mailing lists, study the documentation,
> probably have 2 computers so you can have one in Windows while you try
> linux on the other. And if someone wants to just sit down, boot a live
> CD like sonar or vinux, and try it out, we don't care about them.
>
> It's just ridiculous to argue that making it easier to try linux isn't
> worthwhile. Of course it is.
>
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> On 05/15/14 06:02, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> > Then what is the documentation for ?
> > If you are a user transending to Linux, then the smartest thing to do
> > is first google up the docs, ask on the mailing list about the basic
> > (getting up and running ) keyboard commands, going to the Orca
> > preferences and chenging what you want.
> > I guess people have jaws preferences UI as well?
> > Just because a few people want to beleive that Windows and related
> > proprietary screen reader is a de-facto standard, it does not mean it
> > is a universal belief.
> > Happy hacking.
> > Krishnakant.
> > On Thursday 15 May 2014 04:08 AM, John Heim wrote:
> > > Come on people! New users aren't going to know how to customize the
> > > key bindings.  They aren't going to be able to use the screen reader
> > > in order to  change the keybindings. If they  could use the screen
> > > reader well enough to change the key bindings, they wouldn't need to
> > > change the key bindings.
> > >
> > > Well, I can recognize a certain value in leaving the key bindings the
> > > way they are just because we are all used to them. Seems a little
> > > selfish to me. Personally, I have sympathy for those trying to make
> > > the transition to linux.  It is difficult enough to learn a new
> > > operating system as it is if you are blind.
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