Re: [orca-list] string prefferences and newbie questions



Here are a few answers to your questions.

/home isn't your home directory, but the parent directory for your home directory. It's the directory where all of the different user's home directories are located. You won't have permission to edit files in the /home directory.

If you want to edit a file in /home then you'll need to type

$ sudo gedit

This will bring up your editor with super user privileges. You'll be asked for your password before the editor will come up. This will also work for nano or any other editor.

If you're trying to edit a file in your home directory then just move to that directory first. The following command will get you there:

$ cd

gedit is a good basic editor. It isn't a programming editor or an IDE though. It won't open up a console for you. Emacs also does everything you want, but that's another learning curve itself. I'd suggest holding off on Emacs until you pick up more basic Linux skills. That's just my $0.02.

Yes, you'll need to enter the extension for a file. Linux will take any file extension or none at all. Linux looks at the contents of a file and not the file extension to determine if it's a text file or not.

I'm not sure why you would think Orca+enter would read the title of an application to you. Try Orca+/. That's the Orca key and the slash key held down at the same time.

You can use the Orca learn mode, Orca+h to see what different key combinations do. You exit learn mode with the escape key. You can also go into the Orca settings, with Orca+space-bar, and control+tab over to the key bindings tab to explore Orca's key bindings. There are probably some key commands on line as well.

On 07/21/2014 03:37 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
So, I typed in a little file using nano and tried to save it and got the
message that access was denied.
I don't know why, I tried going to my #/home before going into nano, but
it didn't work. I also tried typing number before entering the nano
commands but it didn't work either. How can I write to the disk?
Also, what does m-h mean? Does it mean that I need to press the menu
(windows key) when typing h? I've never seen m. I got that ^ was ctrl,
but what are the other symbols?
What are some good text editors? Gedit may be a text editor, but does it
have key commands for commenting, indenting, opening up console windows
and whatnot?
Also, when saving a file do I need to type .txt, or whatnot when writing
a file name? If I don't what will it show?
How do I find what application I'm in? pressing orca+enter doesn't work.
I found the "show hidden files and folders, but don't see the "show
extension" option.
In the file explorer, how do I copy and paste with keyboard commands? I
see how to do it with the applications key, but not with anything else.

In firefox, I'm having some real trouble with navigation. When arrowing
or pressing h, it will circle around the top links, rather than going
into the content.
Also, if the heading is a link, it won't read the name of the link. When
I hit shift tab, instead of moving to the last item, it will go to the
address bar.
thanks,


Brandon Keith Biggs <http://www.brandonkeithbiggs.com>
On 07/21/2014 11:23 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://www.brandonkeithbiggs.com>
On 07/21/2014 08:48 AM, B. Henry wrote:
Hello,
Not only does the gedit save dialogue not let me save, ut it also does
not let me shift tab in most fields. if I wish to shift tab in the box
after the name, I can't. I have to tab all the away around again.

The speak multi-case string as words did nothing to my knowledge. Is
there anything else you can think of? I can't work with a screen
reader who doesn't say things in words. What synths do other
programmers use?

Also, in thunderbird, under  the profile settings, under composition,
I checked "compose messages in html" but when I type:
<h1>This is heading 1</h1>
It just shows the code...
Do I need to declare this is an html page and whatnot? Is there any
way for me to view my emails before I send them?

Under my / folder there is no .local or .config folder. Perhaps they
are hidden. is there anyway for the system to stop hiding hidden files
and folders?

Under the Orca preferences, I tried to specify a special pronunciation
for my email address, but I can't type in the substitution string. I
can type it, but when I hit enter the string disappears, when I hit
tab the string disappears, when I hit alt tab the string disappears.
What am I doing wrong?

Under the Orca preferences text attributes, I checked "speak" spelling
errors, but it is not doing it (I restarted the computer after
changing the settings).

When I'm typing, I get a different dictionary than when I backspace.
For example, when I type ", I hear "double quote" but when I backspace
I hear "quote". How do I unify the dictionary? I would like it to be
the backspace dictionary.

I said this earlier, but when I'm in html pages, often when I click on
a link, or hit enter on a chunk of text that is not a link, I will not
be able to arrow anymore. I can only tab. How do I get back my arrow keys?

Often I'm finding myself crashing Orca. Is there a key command to shut
down and restart orca?

When I start up my Ubuntu distro, my sound is muted 80% of the time.
Is there any way to keep this from happening?

In the console, I typed in my user name as it was shown,
"brandonLaptop", but that coupled with my password still failed to let
me log in.
Is there any way to get out of the console without shutting down the
computer when it is still on the log-in screen?
Thanks,



Brandon,
Check the option in orca preferences in the voice tab that says something like speak multicase strings as 
words. It's
either the last option before apply, or close to it.
I just saw that you are using voxin, so there may well be some things going on with how strings that contain 
mixed
characters, i.e. numbers and letters are pronounced that can't be controled with Orca. I don't have this 
synth installed
anywhere at the moment and don't remember how it reacts. YOu can look in 
/etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/ibmtts.conf to see
if there's anything you can adjust that will help you. You may also have a speechdispatcher directory in your 
home folder,
maybe ~/.local/share/speech-dispatcher, but for me it's ~/.config/speech-dispatcher. IIIIIIf you have the 
directory in
your home folder you should probably work with that copy of the ibmtts.conf file as it will override whatever 
is in /etc.
Ido not understand why you can't save your files with gedit. This is not normal. Try tabbing around and 
seeing how
everything looks.
There is some lag with thunderbird, especially for some message types. YOu can try changing how the start 
reading
automatically option is set in the thunderbird tab of orca prefs for thunderbird. Remember that orcakey 
control insert
gives you the prefs for a specific ap. Apply, and then hit OK. If it is checked,, default I think, try 
unsetting it and
after saving, reopen the ap specific prefs and reset it. I don't know why, but even using latest orca thhis 
still makes a
difference for some settings for me.
I think the saying of capital is also a voxin thing. Look in the speech-dispatcher file I mentioned above for 
anything
related to this.
OK, I see it, maybe nothing for the string thing, so hopefully the orca setting will help, but look at the 
substitution
rules and change the lines that say for example,
IbmttsKeySubstitution "en"  "N"         "capital N "
deleting the capital in each letter's line. Probably just putting a # character at the beginning of each of 
those lines
will have the same effect as like in most scripts and configuratin files the numbersign means the line is a 
comment and
that it is not to be read by the program, or if the file is the program that it is not to be used.
YOu need to look at all of your options in both thunderbird prefferences and account settings. Remember that 
some have
options with in options, so you will have to arrow down in a 2nd column as well to see them all, sorry, no 
tim e to give
specific examples.
Somewhere in these is the option to enable spell checking. It's probably in composition, but can't remember 
whether this
is in prefferences for sure, it may be in the account settings, i.e. can be set differently for each mail or 
other
account. Anyway, once enabled you will be shown your mispelled words when you go to send a message. You can 
also check a
box somewhere, probably in the same line as the automaticly spell check setting that says something about 
showing
mispelled words while they are being written.
There are many settings that you may wish to customize, so I seriously recommend going through ALL the 
available options
in both the menus I mentined, accounts and prefs. There's also an option intools I think that will let you 
check a message
if it's not configured to do so by default. I have a reason that I don't want to start thunderbird right 
now+I"m short on
time so can't check this for you right now.
Your wording is unclear regarding firefox bookmarks, but you can do some things from the contextual menu, 
i.e. when on the
bookmark in question you press the menukey or shift f10 and arrow up and down. YOu can't do everything from 
there, and
it's recommended to open the manager, especially if you have more than one change to apply. YOu may be 
confused a bit by
how the tree structure is navigated there, at least I have at times. I know intuitively now how to do what I 
need to do
almost always, but with out opening it and taking detailed notes can't explain it clearly with confidence, 
and again, I'm
short on time and that would take a while. Just remember that you will need to use both tabbing and arrowing 
to get at
everything. Sometimes you will see folders, and other times there contents, but everything is certainly 
displayable when
you use the manager.
As for your username, my first response is, "Wow!", someone spacier than I...lol.
You should see your user name unless you've changed how your prompt is displayed, at least in most distros, 
when you open
a terminal emulator in the GUI, like spacy-user [my-computer /some-directory]$
punctuation can vary as will spacing between distros, and you will likely see a ~ character when you   open 
the terminal
or console as this stands for your home-directory.
If for some odd reason the username is not shown in your prompt then you can open /etc/shadow and look for 
it. There will
be a list of "users", most of which will be program names. It usually starts with root, thin bin, and maybe 
daemon next.
Everything will be a service or program except for usernames. In /etc/group you will find a somewhat longer 
list and down
toards the bottom in most cases you will have the username also with a number beside it of 1000 or a bit 
higher in most
cases unless you've done something non-standard which I doubt or you'd not be asking these questions.
The other file you may look at to change how things are spoken is the speech.conf file in the 
speech-dispatcher irectory.
Make backup copies of any of the configuration files before you make any changes in case you break something, 
or the
change doesn't have the desired effect. Just copy it back in to place with the original name if your changes 
don't work as
desired. Remember you'll probably need to restart screenreaders to hear changes.
Got to run, so hope I touched on all the important points.
If you have more questions, please tell us your orca version, what distro/release you are using, and although 
in this case
it should not matter, your cpu and how much ram you have for good measure. Again that last one won't matter 
for the type
of thing you are asking about, but it's just good form as for other questions it may matter.
I'm wondering if you don't have permission to change your any files, even in your home folder as you appear 
to have things
set up to auto log-in. Usually you need to enter a password to modify files or add/delete them at some point, 
so if this
is not done at log-in it may be asked for when you go to save those files that don't seem to be being saved. 
I don't get
why you don't hear a notification and or see the dialog where you fill in username , and password, or at 
least the PW.
It's usually not a good idea to auto log-in as you'll need to enter the info at sometime anyway, and 
sometimes I've heard
of other complications&or bugs that occur when things are set to auto log-in.
Maybe fixing those capital letter pronunciation lines will help all of your pronunciation issues with words 
being spelled.
If you are still having issues there maybe someone who uses the ibmtts can help as I'm probably not going to 
be installing
those voices soon/do need the Spanish one sometimes though, but am avoiding it for the moment as last I 
checked the
speechdispatcher version required is not up to date and complications were common for many users.
Regards,
--
B.H.







On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 05:15:44AM -0700, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
    On 07/21/2014 04:40 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

      Hello,
      One more question:
      Sometimes in an app like firefox or the help, Orca will stop
      responding to the up and down arrows.
      How do I refresh orca so that it will work again? It works if I hit
  >      tab or alt tab, but changing the focus doesn't work and neither does
      loading a new page.
      thanks,
      Brandon Keith Biggs
      On 07/21/2014 04:28 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

      Hello,
      Some really newbie questions:
      1. How do I make Orca say a word rather than spelling it when
      incountering a string like "test1"?
      2. How can I keep Orca from saying "capital o" or "backspace o" when
      pressing shift or backspace?
      3. What is the best way to navigate through thunderbird? In windows
      I just press enter on my messages and it reads all super fast, but
      here it seems to lag a lot when I do that. Hitting f6 works, but
      does not do a "read all" function when I jump into the message pane.
      How can I most quickly read my messages?
      4. Where is spell-check in Thunderbird located?
      5. How do I save in Gedit? When I press ctrl+s Orca says "capital s"
      and jumps me into the save window. I type in a document name like
      "test1" then hit enter. Nothing happens. I then type: "test1.txt"
      and hit enter. The only thing that seemed to work is "/test1" and
      now I can't find it in my home dir.
      6. How do I see the username of my computer? When trying to log into
      the console I'm asked for my user name, but I don't remember it...
      7. I'm using the elaquence synth and when arrowing through letters I
      often hear lowd pops. Is there any way to keep this from happening?
      8. Is there any way to hear the function name rather than the keys
      when I do something like ctrl s or ctrl r in an app? I know what I'm
      pressing, but don't always know what function I'm calling.
      9. I can't seem to find a "read all" function, what is the key
      command for read all?
      10. Is there any way to add or remove folders in the bookmark menu
      in firefox without going into the bookmarks manager? I tried going
      into the bookmarks manager, adding a folder and looking at the
      folder in the menu, but even though the folder was named in the
      manager, it still showed "unnamed" in the bookmarks menu.
      Thank you,
      Brandon Keith Biggs

    Hello,
    I read on here that Audacity is accessible. I'm wondering how to use
    the preferences window? I need to change some key bindings in order to
    make it work on my laptop. When I hit ctrl+p the window comes up, but I
    can't tab or shift tab or arrow. I try to use the review cursor, but
    that doesn't seem to see the list of preference tabs.
    How do I navigate through this preference window?
    Thanks,

    --
    [1]Brandon Keith Biggs

References

    1.http://www.brandonkeithbiggs.com/
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