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Re: [orca-list] On Simulating Clicks--was Re: Howto add files to a Brasero project

Yes, honestlly there are programs that use the mouse, and that is why the simulated clicks are needed. 
Do I think these are the best programs, no. 
I do think it's a reasonable feature request, and who knows, perhaps it will be addressed. 
Honestly though I do not know what the chances are. 
I do think this was and is a poor design choice, and I do think it sad that a piece of software should 
require the use of a mouse, but this is not the 
oly app that suffers from a lack of flexability. 
I don't burn many disks, but have chosen to install xfburn just in case I need to  on the machines I 
configure for a while now. There are other gnome 
programs that need serious overhauls as well, or may just not be worth the trouble, and sadly, some that were 
very good in my opinion have lost  
usability with the obsessive minimalism that is the gnome way now. 
Orca is a shining light on an otherwise somewhat bleak landscape.
    
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 09:21:10AM +0100, Peter V?gner wrote:

Hello,
You may call me perfectionist or simply I am really getting awkward when it
comes to this. I think flat review it-self is just a workaround and
simulating click in order to be able to operate an app is not optimal
solution for visually disabled people. Flat review can be used in terminal
like applications and the same goes for mouse click simulation because there
are not enough semantic info available to orca through the available apis
and due to text nature of console applications there will never be. In the
GUI applications where there are rich APIS flat review should only be used
for reviewing the text and nothing more. This is how I feel.
The issue with Brasero is the same even for sighted keyboard users. There is
no way to add files into the Brasero project using the keyboard only
withouth requiring the mouse. Do you guys still think this is not an issue?

Greetings

Peter

On 17.12.2014 at 00:21 B. Henry wrote:

Well said, having to use the sim clicks is not a bug, missing labels and or misslabeled controls certainly 
are.
I can't remember for sure, but don't think there are any accessibility issues with xfburn, the XFCE 
counterpart of brazero, available in Ubuntu
and Arch repose for sure, probably for most distros. I just started it and all the file selection was 
easy, no need to use simulated mouse clicks. The
other options were also very simple to select, e.g. cd size, music cd, data cd, or .iso cd...
BTW, I'm not using xfce at the moment. Xfburn works fine with any desktop I've tried and only pulls in a 
few deps which are well worth it I think as
brazero has a less than stellar reputation among many from what I read.
Regards,
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B.H.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 04:13:18PM -0500, D. A. H. wrote:

It is observed that one need simulate a double-click in order to add some
items to a Brazero project.  Since orca can do this, using flat review and
the simulation keys, does the neede to do this constitute a bug?I'm not sure
it does, since this is how Brazero is meant to be operated.  If flat review
didn't work in this app, then I'd call it a bug.  Interested people should
fine a feature request on Brazero's bug system.  The issue of unlabeled
controls is a bug, and should be filed thusly.

Best,


Dave



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