Re: [orca-list] Problem running orca

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

LXDE is not inaccessible.  Knopix Adrienne uses LXDE as its default window manager/Desktop.  Also, Sonar has a spin that uses LXDE and XFCE as the desktops.  The closest I know of to anyone using something close to Openbox was Trevor Saunders' affirmation that he uses Fluxbox which may be based on similar technology.  I don't know what he had to do to make it work for him but, you may wish to look into it.  Again, thyough, LXDE can now be used to a large degree by a person needing a screen reader.  And, as for your recommendations on speech, JPM does not want to use speech.  He uses braille. 

Alex M

On 3/2/2013 10:31 PM, Bill Dengler wrote:

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OK, you say that open box isn't accessible, then you say to use LXDE?
But if LXDE's window manager isn't accessible, why should we use LXDE?

Bill
On 03/02/2013 11:16 PM, Alex Midence wrote:

All the other suggestions and questions notwithstanding, I wonder
if anyone's tackled the most fundamental problem:

Orca does not read Xterm.  It never has in my experience neither
with braille nor with speech.  Gnome-termilnal yes, xterm?  Ce
n'est pas posible, mon ami.

Also, OpenBox is something I thought was not accessible.  If you
require minimal resources, perhaps you should try getting LXDE to
work for you. There are some messages in the archives of this
mailing list which give the steps.  I do not use LXDE but Jonathan
Nadeau and a few others have posted about this in the past.

Bonne Chance, Alex M


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On 3/2/2013 9:50 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

On Saturday 02 Mar 2013 à 22:40:10 (-0500), Bill Dengler wrote:

Install the "speech-dispatcher" package then, run spd-conf

Hmmm. I've installed one. Even after spd-conf, I've nothing
else. But right, at this time, I've not installed any speech
synthetiser (espeak). I hope I'll be able to use braille only.
I needn't speech synthetiser usually.

Is there a reason you don't want python3?

I try optimizing at maximum my system and as I use python2 for
most applications, I'm not so happy if both python2 and 3 are
installed. Both would be large on the system. And most apps
don't support python3 yet. Well if I cannot do better, I'll
install it, but first, I'd ;ike to know if I can use Python2. I
also don't know if I don't risk conflicts between modules and
releases.

Sincerely,

Bill On 03/02/2013 10:39 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

On Saturday 02 Mar 2013 à 22:26:55 (-0500), Bill Dengler
wrote: OK... do you hear "welcome to orca"?

No I don't. I only see, via xbrlapi, "Screen reader orca"
(so a window whose title is "screen reader orca"). But
indeed, I don't have "Welcome to orca". Thanks for your
help.

Bill On 03/02/2013 10:25 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

Hi,

I'm in progress in my experiences, but still not with
an orca. I explain. I use openbox, and I run orca
from an xterm terminal. I issue: orca
--enable=braille I have nothing. orca runs, but
nothing seems to appear, including the preferences 
window. I precise at-spi2-registryd is running.

So I run, while xterm is running and on a terminal
(tty1): DISPLAY=:0 orca --enable=braille

On the console, I get: File 
"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gi/types.py",
line 47, in function return info.invoke(*args,
**kwargs) gi._glib.GError: Could not locate
wnck_screen_get_default: (null)

orca crashes (I can kill it only with a kill -s 9
command).

I precise what I want: running orca from xterm (or at
X boot time via openbox autostart or what else I'll
find), and having displayed the preferences window.
Then, with alt-tab, I could access to OOo and
firefox. Xterm would say "inaccessible" but no
problem, I don't mind.

Is this behavior expected? Does a stack miss in my
system? I still use orca 3.6.2, as I'd like to avoid
Python3 required with latest orca releases. I have
installed pygobject and libwnck. But some stack must
miss in my architecture of accessibility.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

JPM

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