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Re: [orca-list] orca just says welcome and that is all

See comments below.

Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com> wrote:


On 05/21/2012 12:07 PM, covici ccs covici com wrote:

oops, left out import when I copied -- will try again.

Now I got a good(well you know what I mean) debug file and I attach it
here.


Thanks. I don't see any tracebacks, nor do I see the output Orca that
Orca prints when timing out. So I'm a little puzzled.

Questions:

1. Did things work before you installed master?

I have not gotten orca or gnome to work for a while,  whats in my
distribution is 3.2.2, so I figured I'd upgrade to 3.4 and see if I was
better off.


2. Did you change/install anything else?

I installed orca from source.


3. Did you stomp on your existing (from distro) Orca, or install in a
   different location, or uninstall the distro Orca first?

I did not install the orca from the distribution at all, or if I ever
did it has been uninstalled for quite a while.



4. If you do an orca --replace after the first one is launched, what
   happens?

Orca restarts, says its welcome message and goes silent.


5. Do you know if Orca is terminating or just going silent?

Orca is just silent with the warning messages about getevents  mentioned
in my previous post.


6. Even if Orca is silent, could you try Alt+Tabbing, launching an app,
   or anything else which Orca would log to debug.out?

I tried a couple of things, but the debug file seems not to change.



7. What other apps are running? Capturing the output of 'orca -l' from
   a terminal or console would be handy.

orca -l just gives a lot of warnings like this:
(orca:25023): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
gtk-widgets.css:1415:21: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.



8. Any chance espeak is tanking on you?

I don't think so,  I can do spd-say and it is working.

Here is the latest debug file, but it might be the same.

Attempt to load orca-customizations from /home/covici/.local/share/orca/orca-customizations.py succeeded.
INFO: Settings manager activated
INFO: Initializing event manager
INFO: Event manager initialized
INFO: Initializing script manager
INFO: Script manager initialized
INFO: Initializing Orca module
INFO: Loading User Settings
INFO: Dectivating script manager
INFO: Script manager deactivated
Trying to use speech server factory: orca.speechdispatcherfactory
Using speech server factory: orca.speechdispatcherfactory
Speech module has been initialized.
Braille module has been initialized using tty=7
braille display size = (20, 1)
INFO: Activating script manager
NEW SCRIPT: default (module=orca.scripts.default)
INFO: Event manager registering listeners for: <orca.scripts.default.Script instance at 0x1032050>
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:selected
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:expanded
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:value-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:focused
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:active
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:create
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-attributes-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-caret-moved
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:selection-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: focus:
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:active-descendant-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:property-change:accessible-name
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:activate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:deactivate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: mouse:button
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:indeterminate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:link-selected
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-changed:insert
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:property-change:accessible-value
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-selection-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:showing
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-changed:delete
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:pressed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:checked
ACTIVE SCRIPT: default (module=orca.scripts.default) (reason=activate)
INFO: Script manager activated
INFO: Activating event manager
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:activate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:deactivate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:children-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: mouse:button
INFO: Event manager activated
INFO: User Settings Loaded
INFO: Event manager registering keystroke listener function: <function _processKeyboardEvent at 0xe2b758>
INFO: Orca module initialized
SPEECH OUTPUT: 'Welcome to Orca.' voice=system
BRAILLE LINE:  'Welcome to Orca.'
     VISIBLE:  'Welcome to Orca.', cursor=0
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD 
mapped orca to orca
Looking for orca-scripts.orca.py
Could not import orca-scripts.orca.py
Looking for scripts.orca.py
Could not import scripts.orca.py
Looking for scripts.apps.orca.py
Could not import scripts.apps.orca.py
Looking for scripts.toolkits.orca.py
Could not import scripts.toolkits.orca.py
mapped gtk to GAIL
Looking for orca-scripts.GAIL.py
Could not import orca-scripts.GAIL.py
Looking for scripts.GAIL.py
Could not import scripts.GAIL.py
Looking for scripts.apps.GAIL.py
Could not import scripts.apps.GAIL.py
Looking for scripts.toolkits.GAIL.py
Found scripts.toolkits.GAIL.py
NEW SCRIPT: orca (module=orca.scripts.toolkits.GAIL)
Loaded scripts.toolkits.GAIL.py
INFO: Event manager registering listeners for: <orca.scripts.toolkits.GAIL.Script instance at 0x1085f38>
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:selected
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:expanded
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:value-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:focused
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:active
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:create
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-attributes-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-caret-moved
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:selection-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: focus:
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:active-descendant-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:property-change:accessible-name
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:activate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:deactivate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: mouse:button
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:indeterminate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:link-selected
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-changed:insert
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:property-change:accessible-value
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-selection-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:showing
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-changed:delete
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:pressed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:checked
----------> QUEUEING WINDOW:CREATE 
mapped orca to orca
Looking for orca-scripts.orca.py
Could not import orca-scripts.orca.py
Looking for scripts.orca.py
Could not import scripts.orca.py
Looking for scripts.apps.orca.py
Could not import scripts.apps.orca.py
Looking for scripts.toolkits.orca.py
Could not import scripts.toolkits.orca.py
mapped gtk to GAIL
Looking for orca-scripts.GAIL.py
Could not import orca-scripts.GAIL.py
Looking for scripts.GAIL.py
Could not import scripts.GAIL.py
Looking for scripts.apps.GAIL.py
Could not import scripts.apps.GAIL.py
Looking for scripts.toolkits.GAIL.py
Found scripts.toolkits.GAIL.py
NEW SCRIPT: orca (module=orca.scripts.toolkits.GAIL)
Loaded scripts.toolkits.GAIL.py
INFO: Event manager registering listeners for: <orca.scripts.toolkits.GAIL.Script instance at 0x1096290>
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:selected
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:expanded
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:value-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:focused
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:active
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:create
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-attributes-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-caret-moved
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:selection-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: focus:
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:active-descendant-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:property-change:accessible-name
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:activate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: window:deactivate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: mouse:button
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:indeterminate
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:link-selected
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-changed:insert
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:property-change:accessible-value
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-selection-changed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:showing
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:text-changed:delete
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:pressed
INFO: Event manager registering listener for: object:state-changed:checked
DEQUEUED OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:children-changed:add              detail=(1,0,[frame | Orca])
    app.name='orca' name='orca' role='application' state='' relations=''
Script for event: orca (module=orca.scripts.toolkits.GAIL)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0029
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add ^^^^^

DEQUEUED WINDOW:CREATE  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT window:create vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: window:create                            detail=(0,0,Orca)
    app.name='orca' name='Orca' role='frame' state='enabled modal resizable sensitive showing visible' 
relations=''
Script for event: orca (module=orca.scripts.toolkits.GAIL)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0019
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT window:create ^^^^^

knownApplications...
...knownApplications
INFO: Starting Orca
INFO: Orca starting registry
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:STATE-CHANGED:SHOWING 
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:STATE-CHANGED:SHOWING 
DEQUEUED OBJECT:STATE-CHANGED:SHOWING  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:state-changed:showing vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:state-changed:showing             detail=(0,0,0)
    app.name='orca' name='None' role='icon' state='enabled sensitive visible' relations=''
Script for event: orca (module=orca.scripts.toolkits.GAIL)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0007
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:state-changed:showing ^^^^^

DEQUEUED OBJECT:STATE-CHANGED:SHOWING  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:state-changed:showing vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:state-changed:showing             detail=(0,0,0)
    app.name='orca' name='Orca' role='frame' state='enabled modal resizable sensitive' relations=''
Script for event: orca (module=orca.scripts.toolkits.GAIL)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0006
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:state-changed:showing ^^^^^

----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD 
DEQUEUED OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:children-changed:add              detail=(12,0,[DEAD])
    app=None name='main' role='desktop frame' state='' relations=''
Script for event: default (module=orca.scripts.default)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 15.0164
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add ^^^^^

----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:REMOVE 
DEQUEUED OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:REMOVE  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:remove vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:children-changed:remove           detail=(12,0,[DEAD])
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0030
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:remove ^^^^^

----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD 
DEQUEUED OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:children-changed:add              detail=(12,0,[DEAD])
    app=None name='main' role='desktop frame' state='' relations=''
Script for event: default (module=orca.scripts.default)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 15.0164
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add ^^^^^

----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:REMOVE 
DEQUEUED OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:REMOVE  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:remove vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:children-changed:remove           detail=(12,0,[DEAD])
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0031
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:remove ^^^^^



Thanks so much for all your help.




Take care.
--joanie


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici ccs covici com
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