Re: [orca-list] the speakupmodified dists from speakupmodified.org

[mattias <mj mjw se>]

will arch use at-spi or at-spi2
On 2012-07-09 15:07, Alex Midence wrote:
> How would the GUI stuff interfere?  Ubuntu comes with all the gui bells and
> whistles you could want and yet, it has a talking installer.  And, the
> reason they don't make Xemacs the default is that people wouldn't be able to
> use it as easily as they can LIbre Office or Open Office.  The learning
> curve for Emacs is too steep for adoption by more than a small specialized
> and commited user base.  For the types that just want to get in there and
> get things done coming at the system cold, it's a major turnoff.  That stuff
> has to be included in there.  I don't think it's the GUI stuff.  I think
> it's more that it just is not a priority for a lot of distributions or that
> it just doesn't get that much attention.  Besides, the GUI stuff isn't a
> factor in Speakup modified installations with software speech.  There's
> absolutely no GUI on a Debian Business card iso.  It's a real slimmed down
> bit of Linux and it is pure text.
>
> Alex M
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jude DaShiell [mailto:jdashiel shellworld net]
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:51 AM
> To: Alex Midence
> Cc: Thomas Ward; orca-list
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] the speakupmodified dists from speakupmodified.org
>
> It's all the G.U.I. stuff that gets put on systems.  The openoffice suite
> with all of its dependencies is one piece that can be stripped from initial
> distribution and added in later.  Probably xemacs could replace openoffice
> at a huge space savings too.  Probably not so many dependencies and most of
> the functionality of openoffice will be there too. On Sun, 8 Jul 2012, Alex
> Midence wrote:
>
> > You are absolutely right.  I'd forgotten about the talking Arch
> > option.  To me, Debian's example is the most impressive.  The business
> > card sized iso which is like 30 or 40 megs or something like that has
> > software speech built in to it.  goes to show you that it doesn't take
> > up much space on an image and that it's most likely something else
> > that prevents more distributions from making this option available.
> >
> > Alex M
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/8/2012 4:14 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > Add archlinux to that list please.  There's a talkingarch version
> > > that had espeak added to it. On Sun, 8 Jul 2012, Alex Midence wrote:
> > >
> > > > The only distros I know of that have speakup with software speech
> > > > functionality out of the box are Debian and grml.
> > > >
> > > > Alex M
> > > >
> > > > On 7/8/2012 4:24 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > > > Hi Mattias,
> > > > >
> > > > > To the best of my memory yes. The distributions from the Speakup
> > > > > Modified website are only configured for hardware synths. I'm
> > > > > not aware of any speakup modified distributions that use
> > > > > ESpeakup or something like that for software TTS. :D
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/7/12, mattias<mj mjw se>  wrote:
> > > > > > will them only work with hardware tts?
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