Re: [orca-list] the speakupmodified dists from speakupmodified.org

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

How would the GUI stuff interfere?  Ubuntu comes with all the gui bells and
whistles you could want and yet, it has a talking installer.  And, the
reason they don't make Xemacs the default is that people wouldn't be able to
use it as easily as they can LIbre Office or Open Office.  The learning
curve for Emacs is too steep for adoption by more than a small specialized
and commited user base.  For the types that just want to get in there and
get things done coming at the system cold, it's a major turnoff.  That stuff
has to be included in there.  I don't think it's the GUI stuff.  I think
it's more that it just is not a priority for a lot of distributions or that
it just doesn't get that much attention.  Besides, the GUI stuff isn't a
factor in Speakup modified installations with software speech.  There's
absolutely no GUI on a Debian Business card iso.  It's a real slimmed down
bit of Linux and it is pure text.  

Alex M



-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell [mailto:jdashiel shellworld net] 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:51 AM
To: Alex Midence
Cc: Thomas Ward; orca-list
Subject: Re: [orca-list] the speakupmodified dists from speakupmodified.org

It's all the G.U.I. stuff that gets put on systems.  The openoffice suite
with all of its dependencies is one piece that can be stripped from initial
distribution and added in later.  Probably xemacs could replace openoffice
at a huge space savings too.  Probably not so many dependencies and most of
the functionality of openoffice will be there too. On Sun, 8 Jul 2012, Alex
Midence wrote:

> You are absolutely right.  I'd forgotten about the talking Arch 
> option.  To me, Debian's example is the most impressive.  The business 
> card sized iso which is like 30 or 40 megs or something like that has 
> software speech built in to it.  goes to show you that it doesn't take 
> up much space on an image and that it's most likely something else 
> that prevents more distributions from making this option available.
>
> Alex M
>
>
>
> On 7/8/2012 4:14 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > Add archlinux to that list please.  There's a talkingarch version 
> > that had espeak added to it. On Sun, 8 Jul 2012, Alex Midence wrote:
> >
> > > The only distros I know of that have speakup with software speech 
> > > functionality out of the box are Debian and grml.
> > >
> > > Alex M
> > >
> > > On 7/8/2012 4:24 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > > Hi Mattias,
> > > >
> > > > To the best of my memory yes. The distributions from the Speakup 
> > > > Modified website are only configured for hardware synths. I'm 
> > > > not aware of any speakup modified distributions that use 
> > > > ESpeakup or something like that for software TTS. :D
> > > >
> > > > On 7/7/12, mattias <mj mjw se> wrote:
> > > > > will them only work with hardware tts?
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