Re: [orca-list] the speakupmodified dists from speakupmodified.org

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

My guess is At-spi2 because Arch is geared toward people who want to be on
the bleeding edge.  

Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: mattias [mailto:mj mjw se] 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 8:17 AM
To: Alex Midence
Cc: 'orca-list'
Subject: Re: [orca-list] the speakupmodified dists from speakupmodified.org

will arch use at-spi or at-spi2
On 2012-07-09 15:07, Alex Midence wrote:
> How would the GUI stuff interfere?  Ubuntu comes with all the gui 
> bells and whistles you could want and yet, it has a talking installer.  
> And, the reason they don't make Xemacs the default is that people 
> wouldn't be able to use it as easily as they can LIbre Office or Open 
> Office.  The learning curve for Emacs is too steep for adoption by 
> more than a small specialized and commited user base.  For the types 
> that just want to get in there and get things done coming at the 
> system cold, it's a major turnoff.  That stuff has to be included in 
> there.  I don't think it's the GUI stuff.  I think it's more that it 
> just is not a priority for a lot of distributions or that it just 
> doesn't get that much attention.  Besides, the GUI stuff isn't a 
> factor in Speakup modified installations with software speech.  
> There's absolutely no GUI on a Debian Business card iso.  It's a real
slimmed down bit of Linux and it is pure text.
> Alex M
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jude DaShiell [mailto:jdashiel shellworld net]
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:51 AM
> To: Alex Midence
> Cc: Thomas Ward; orca-list
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] the speakupmodified dists from 
> speakupmodified.org
>
> It's all the G.U.I. stuff that gets put on systems.  The openoffice 
> suite with all of its dependencies is one piece that can be stripped 
> from initial distribution and added in later.  Probably xemacs could 
> replace openoffice at a huge space savings too.  Probably not so many 
> dependencies and most of the functionality of openoffice will be there 
> too. On Sun, 8 Jul 2012, Alex Midence wrote:
>
> > You are absolutely right.  I'd forgotten about the talking Arch 
> > option.  To me, Debian's example is the most impressive.  The 
> > business card sized iso which is like 30 or 40 megs or something like 
> > that has software speech built in to it.  goes to show you that it 
> > doesn't take up much space on an image and that it's most likely 
> > something else that prevents more distributions from making this option
available.
> > Alex M
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/8/2012 4:14 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > Add archlinux to that list please.  There's a talkingarch version 
> > > that had espeak added to it. On Sun, 8 Jul 2012, Alex Midence wrote:
> > >
> > > > The only distros I know of that have speakup with software speech 
> > > > functionality out of the box are Debian and grml.
> > > >
> > > > Alex M
> > > >
> > > > On 7/8/2012 4:24 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > > > Hi Mattias,
> > > > >
> > > > > To the best of my memory yes. The distributions from the Speakup 
> > > > > Modified website are only configured for hardware synths. I'm not 
> > > > > aware of any speakup modified distributions that use ESpeakup or 
> > > > > something like that for software TTS. :D
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/7/12, mattias<mj mjw se>  wrote:
> > > > > > will them only work with hardware tts?
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