Re: [orca-list] Trying Quantal Quetsal Alpha 3

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

Yes, I would tell you that.  Your case is a very specialized, highly unusual
one for the task you were trying to accomplish.  You weren't using office
productivity software, a web browser, music recording or playing software,
an integrated development environment, an e-mail client, a pdf viewer, a
bible program, or any  number of other applications that are more than just
simple utilities and that are targeted at a wider audience than advanced
users like yourself.  It makes sense that you would gravitate towards Arch,
for instance since it's targeted at advanced users.  I like choice as much
as the next one but at the end of the day, all I want from my machine is to
be able to sit down and get my work done, whatever it may be.  I also want
to be able to share my machine with my family some of whom are not big on
complicated technology.  Their tallents lie in other directions.  I would
gladly trade all the five or six hundred choices I can't take advantage of
because theya re inaccessible to  me in exchange for just one choice where
every application I need comes up for me accessibly and allows me to do what
I need to quickly and efficiently and without me having to spend hours and
hours just learning the quirks of its interface.  Now then, having said
that, I would be even happier if I could have my cake and eat it too.  This
translates to being able to ckrack open whatever Linux distro I want using
whatever combination of window manager and desktop environment it comes with
out of the box, fire up Orca and be able to avail myself of all those 500
choices.  That's simply too big a project though.  If anyone manages to pull
that off, I would be very surprised if it wasn't something you had to shell
out a few bucks for.  

Alex M

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Kyle
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:43 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Trying Quantal Quetsal Alpha 3

This was supposed to be on the list rather than a private message. Trying
again.

So you think that Windows with all its various screen readers and still over
50% inaccessibility is better than the work that is being done to try to get
more than just GNOME and its core applications talking? And you think that
the Mac environment, where core applications work just fine but third party
applications, most notably Firefox, don't work well, and actually, neither
does a Borne shell in a terminal, is somehow better than the diversity and
complete freedom of choice we have in Linux, where I have had access to the
shell for 10 years, and that access was there long before that, and where I
have access to multiple graphical environments, which is always better than
a single choice, even when there is a choice of two? Not to mention that on
the environments we can choose, I don't believe our level of access is below
50%.

I recently had to make the brave attempt to find a program for Windows that
would partition my phone's SD card. In Linux, this would have been a simple
matter of running Parted, Fdisk, or if I wanted GPT partitioning, Gdisk, the
GNOME disk utility, or probably a few other quite accessible applications I
forgot to mention. However, all the applications I found that could do this
simple task were either applications I would have had to pay upwards of $30
to use one time or were very difficult to use with a screen reader. I
eventually ended up using Live USB creator, which was challenging enough, to
copy a Talking Arch installer onto a thumb drive so that I could get access
to Parted. Normally I wouldn't have needed to do any of this, but my main
computerhas been dead for almost 2 months, and the only box I have access to
now is a very old Dell something or other that is running Windows XP. Att
this point, I'm just happy that it will boot to a thumb drive without much
difficulty
  so
that I can work in the environment I am most comfortable with and do my work
accessibly and productively.

And you would tell me that Linux diversity and freedom of choice is bad for
accessibility? Things that make you go hmmm.
~Kyle
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