Re: [orca-list] What the actual status with GNOME Shell 3.2 accessibility support?

[hackingKK <hackingkk gmail com>]

On 18/10/11 20:17, Bill Cox wrote:
> I also have had issues trying to deal with GTK+ accessibility.  In
> short, I gave up.  I'm not surprised Ubuntu has had so many problems
> working with Gnome.  I wonder how much of a factor that was in
> Ubuntu's decision to port Unity to QT.  Unity 2D is QT based.
Bill, My personal things match 100% with you.
It is not a secret that I might mail you privately, It is known that I 
had tryed to get programmers to work on accessibility as Bill knows.
But it was very donting and now it seems that things are very very positive.

> I'm trying to figure out what desktop environment to use over the next
> several months leading up to Ubuntu 12.04 LTE release and Vinux 4.0
> which I expect to be based on it.  I'm currently running Oneiric
> 64-bit with Unity.  Unity has real problems working with Orca, but I
> think that contributions we make to Unity in terms of bug fixes and
> a11y enhancements will be included.  I think we can help get it their
> in time.  I have not had that experience with Gnome, and I have little
> faith that our efforts will in any way impact Gnome accessibility.
> What desktop environment would you guys recommend?
> Bill, so can you or some one some up what we can expecte as accessibility improvement in oneiric?

I am very very curious to know.


> Other factors in favor of QT are:

> - It is simply a better GUI programming toolkit.  Less code is
> required for a better GUI, and that code is more readable and easier
> to write.
> - It is far more portable.  Lately, I've become much more interested
> in cross-platform accessibility.
Again I might come back a bit on my past desire to help out in 
accessibility.
I had requested Bill and even joanie to get me started.
They tryed, but the Bane of all this is getting started howtos and guides.
I think with gtk and gtk+ etc it was never there.
Now my wish to help out has awakened again, this time with a lot of 
hopes, knowing fully that docs are much much better and getting started 
with qt and accessibility will be a great thing now.
@Bill, can you help me with all the necessary information?

> I'm currently finding Unity 2D dosn't work with compiz, andy it's not
> accessible to Orca on my Oneiric 64-bit installation.  Is this what
> others are finding, and are there any known work arounds?

With desktop and future of accessibility, I have 2 approaches.
I would want to know how the accessibility of xfce is going along, else 
qt is best option.

happy hacking.
Krishnakant.