Re: [orca-list] Braille WAS Re: A question for a traceback error message prewenting related

[Tami Kinney <tamara 8024 comcast net>]

Attila,

Thanks for this great answer. Braille displays are pretty expensive 
here, too, so that's driving me nuts. I've transitioned from sighted 
reading, which I have now lost, to speech only until I get that machical 
machine that lets me read it with my fingers.

You also answered a number of ther questions I've had on my list to test 
if my projections for using a braille display to supplement and replace 
speech are close to the mark. A teensy display -- 12 to 20 cells -- is 
sometimes tempting, since it is more affordable than a 40 or 80 cell.. 
But the small ones are still plenty expensive, so that would be a lot of 
money to spend on an insufficient solution.

Thanks for the good information Keep up that good work you're doing!

Tami

On 11/02/2011 10:52 AM, Hammer Attila wrote:
> Hey Tami,
>
> Usual, when I coding, I more often using only speech support, but for
> example in Gedit Orca application related preferences I checket the
> speak indentation and justification check box. The adwantage this
> application-dependent preference modification I see real time for
> example I not mistaked the Python code implementation for example an if
> or else statement block, or inside a code.
> This is happening possible because I prewious years I not have braille
> display before I not get an oldest braille display my friend, in hungary
> the braille displays unfortunately is very expensive.
> When I looking longer hungarian texts, or reviewing I doed any
> application related hungarian translations, I more time using Orca
> braille support with contracted braille feature with my testing
> hungarian contracted braille table.
> For example, when I surfing internet, more time I using Orca with
> braille, because some time fastest clicking a link if I browsing the
> braille display, if I want opening a link, enough to press the cursor
> cell button my braille display the link beginning letter.
> So, I both use Orca with speech and braille support, depending my needs
> and what the fastest method a task related.
>
> Some time, if need fast reviewing a screen or a terminal window, I using
> braille related flat review operations, because all importanter tasks
> are possible managing with my oldest Alwa Satelite braille display buttons.
> For example, when you editing a text, if you do an unwanted mistake the
> text, enough to press proper cursor cell key and the cursor land of the
> important mistaked text part.
>
> I don't no, what other braille related features are would like other
> braille users with now missing in Orca braille support, but if my Python
> knowledges are prowide possibilities and if I have enough free time, i
> trying future doing a missing feature if anybody send me an interesting
> braille enhancement related bugreport link.
> Perhaps I think a sayall style braille related feature future is useful,
> if an user reading braille with longer texts, if technical this is
> possible. Now, Orca have a braille flash time related setting. If
> possible doing a braille related binding this type function, I think
> enough to scroll down braille display for example with flash time gived
> time periods automaticaly, and the continous reading for braille
> displays is possible future very easy with Orca without need manual
> forward scrolling the braille display. This feature perhaps useful if
> any braille user would like reading for example books with Orca with
> contracted braille support.
>
> Some already speech support awailable features future braille
> implementation I think perhaps not useful for more users with have only
> smallest braille display, for example the tutorial messages related
> feature. With braille display the character count is limited. If you for
> example have only a 20 cell braille display and if the tutorial messages
> will be presenting braille display, you will be not seeing other
> important informations without you backward scrolling the braille display.
>
> Sorry the little offtopic longer answer, and I hope I not mistake
> understanding your letter.
> Hopefuly more users writing you more experiences,
>
> Attila
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