Re: [orca-list] An interesting Orca/FF4 issue

[Mallory van Achterberg <stommepoes stommepoes nl>]

Hi Attilla,

This page is horribly broken.

First, incomplete doctype, so Firefox does change some things when
rendering the page (don't know if this affects Orca much).

Second: I see there are indeed header tags (in the wrong area, those
are just navigation links) but incorrectly wrapped in anchor tags
(what should be is opening header tag, opening anchor tag, then
header/anchor text, closing anchor tag, closing header tag) so maybe
possibly this anchor around the header is changing Orca behaviour.

I would say, see if this behaviour is also on valid code pages,
but I don't happen to know good code pages in Hungarian.

Otherwise http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/ has headers with anchors
inside as proper, so roletype should be correct?

I don't have Natty or FF4.

Cheers,
Mallory
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 05:12:45PM +0200, Hammer Attila wrote:
> Hy,
>
> I see an interesting issue for a webpage when I using Orca and Firefox  
> 4.0, with I don't understand why happening:
> With my Natty system, following website Orca does'nt spokening link  
> roletype for heading level links, only spokening heading level text and  
> heading level number:
> http://pcx.hu/termek/asus-eeepc-1018p-blk141s-fekete-notebook-69229
> Of course, when I jumping structural navigation keys with a this type  
> heading level link, possible activating the link for ENTER key.
>
> This is happening because the webpage is mistake designed for  
> accessibility related, or this is a hidden Firefox4 issue? Prewious I  
> newer see this type issue with other webpages, only I think two page I  
> see this experience now (other page is a mobile prowider webpage, some  
> time Orca doesn't spokening link role type the prowider webpage for  
> arrow keys).
> Not only Orca master version I see this issue, 3.0.0 Ubuntu packaged  
> Orca version producing equals result this webpage. Hopefuly Orca and  
> Firefox side this is not a bug and only happening the problem because  
> mistake designed the webpage.
>
> I attached a debug.out file. What showing the debug.out file for Orca  
> side when I jumping for example heading levels this problematic page? If  
> I see right, when I jump this page a heading level link, Orca does'nt  
> detecting this role type is a heading level link, detecting the object  
> is a normal heading level role.
> Other pages Orca detecting right the heading level links, an example:
> LOCUS OF FOCUS: app='Firefox' name='EljÃhet az idÅ, amikor nem lesznek  
> bÃkÃsek a rendvÃdelmi tÃntetÃsek' role='link'
>                 event=None
> KEYEVENT: type=1
>           id=104
>           hw_code=43
>           modifiers=8192
>           event_string=(h)
>           is_text=True
>           timestamp=3799306
>           time=1304953553.928479
> KEYBOARDEVENT: type=1
>                 id=104
>                 hw_code=43
>                 modifiers=0
>                 event_string=(h)
>                 keyval_name=(h)
>                 is_text=True
>                 timestamp=3799306
>                 time=1304953553.928884
> orca.isModifierKey: returning: False
> ----------> QUEUEING 1 'h' (43)
> ----------> QUEUEING FOCUS:
> ----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:STATE-CHANGED:FOCUSED
> ----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CARET-MOVED
>
> generate braille for focused app.name='Firefox' name='EljÃhet az idÅ,  
> amikor nem lesznek bÃkÃsek a rendvÃdelmi tÃntetÃsek' role='link'  
> state='enabled focusable focused horizontal opaque sensitive showing  
> visible' relations='' (args={'formatType': 'focused',  
> 'useDefaultFormatting': False, 'includeContext': False, 'role':  
> ROLE_LINK, 'mode': 'braille', 'recursing': True}) using '[Link(obj,  
> asString(currentLineText)                                     or  
> asString(displayedText)                                     or  
> asString(name))]'
> currentLineText=['Elj\xc3\xb6het az id\xc5\x91, amikor nem lesznek  
> b\xc3\xa9k\xc3\xa9sek a rendv\xc3\xa9delmi t\xc3\xbcntet\xc3\xa9sek']
> generate braille results:
>   Link: 'Elj`ohet az id'\x0151'`1 amikor nem lesznek b`ek`esek a  
> r5dv`edelmi t`untet`esek', 0
> BRAILLE LINE:  'Elj`ohet az id'\x0151'`1 amikor nem lesznek b`ek`esek a  
> r5dv`edelmi t`untet`esek ;h#a'
>      VISIBLE:  '', cursor=0
> SPEECH OUTPUT: 'EljÃhet az idÅ, amikor nem lesznek bÃkÃsek a rendvÃdelmi  
> tÃntetÃsek hivatkozÃs 1. cÃmsor szint' voice=system
>
> Attila


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