Re: [orca-list] unusual behavior with latest master?

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

Yes, you will lose that export line on every upgrade of orca.  What I
do is keep a copy of the modified orca script in my root user
directory and then after each upgrade, copy this file back to
/usr/bin.  I just diff the files to be sure no changes were made to
this run script.  I think I need to some how modify orca's start up
script to inherit the environment under gdm; don't know how to do this
though.  You will notice a lot of other environment variables are also
being set in this script like PYTHONPATH and others.  The problem is,
not everyone uses speech dispatcher and further, not everyone uses
speech dispatcher as a central service with inet sockets.  Those who
use speech dispatcher with autospawning at the user level will not
experience these problems.  But there are other advantages to running
speech dispatcher as a single central service which have been debated
before.

On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 09:29:37AM -0500, covici ccs covici com wrote:
> Yep, that did it -- putting the export in the run orca script did it, I
> am sure I loseon upgrade -- oh well.  The overwriting settings only
> happens with gdm, with the normal user its fine -- I wonder  -- it must
> think there are no settings or something.  I wonder how it knew before
> about speech dispatcher?  
>
> Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com> wrote:
>
> > GDM is broken in several ways right now.  First off, to get the
> > environment variable to be recognized by Orca, you will have to modify
> > the /usr/bin/orca file directly and insert the following line 
> >     . /etc/profile.d/speechd.sh
> > at the top of the runorca function.
> >
> > Now this speechd.sh script merely sets the environment variable on my
> > system when speech dispatcher is started.  If you start speech
> > dispatcher by some other method, then you could insert the export
> > speechd parameter in this spot instead.  The bottom line here is Orca
> > does not see the environment when started with gem; I don't know why.
> >
> > The other problem you are having is with the new orca settings,  they
> > keep getting overwritten even when I create new ones.  This bug has
> > been noted.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 02:14:03PM +1100, Jason White wrote:
> > > covici ccs covici com <covici ccs covici com> wrote:
> > >  
> > > > I usually start gdm, but  its shell isn ologin, so I ampuzzled.  Also, I
> > > > did put a line in my .bashrc figuring it would login and pick it up
> > > > there, but nothing happened.  Also, for gdm the orca settings get copied
> > > > from somewhere each time I start gdm -- is this by design?
> > >
> > > Yes, I think it is, since obviously the configuration shouldn't be read from your
> > > home directory until you log in (at least, not in a multi-user environment,
> > > which Linux inherently provides).
> > >
> > > You could try setting your environment variable in /etc/rc.local in case that
> > > helps. there might be a gdm configuration option that you need to preserve
> > > environment variables as well - have a look at the gdm documentation, or wait
> > > for a reply from someone who knows gdm.
> > >
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>
>          John Covici
>          covici ccs covici com
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