Re: [orca-list] problems upgrading to 3.0 under arch linux

[Christopher Moore <chris w1gm gmail com>]

Some progress, but...
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:10:15PM +0100, Michael 
Whapples wrote:
> Hello,
> While I will state what needs to be done to get gnome 3.0 installed,
> I must stress the following warning.
>
> Do not upgrade to gnome 3.0 on a system you require for
> productivity, there are some issues with it, some being issues with
> the actual software and some being issues with the packaging on
> archlinux. I understand some of the issues with gnome 3.0 in the
> accessibility area are being dealt with and actually may be fixed in
> git versions of the software.
>
> The issues with the archlinux packaging do impact on accessibility,
> I have filed some bugs but not really seen much movement on them. It
> might be nice to see others who may value this to go and add
> comments and/or vote on those bugs. Here is a list of the bugs:
> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23704
> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23705
> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23707
>
> OK, now I have got the warnings out of the way, if you still wish to
> proceed, read on.
>
> I think the main thing to do here is manually remove gnome-panel-bonobo.
> pacman -R gnome-panel-bonobo
> If pacman complains of dependency issues then you may wish to try
> ignoring dependencies:
> pacman -Rd gnome-panel-bonobo
> If it still complains I think you can do a more severe ignore of
> dependencies:
> pacman -Rdd gnome-panel-bonobo
got passed gnome-panel-bonobo
> After that you probably can just upgrade. However don't expect too
> much from orca, one of the bugs I listed is that orca won't pull in
> pyatspi as a dependency, and if you try and install it manually then
> there could be issues as at-spi and pyatspi contain some files of
> the same name and pacman may complain about conflicting files. You
> may be able to overcome that with the force option to pacman but
> this may not be too good for keeping the system maintainable.
> Another alternative might be to make pyatspi by hand but that also
> might have its issues.
I used the -f (force) option to overwrite the files and installed 
pyatspi ok.  Don't know why python bindings are included in at-spi.

> Also when upgrading be aware that gnome 3.0 on archlinux will
> require pulseaudio, ensure you know how to get speech working with
> that before you do the upgrade.
Pulse was working before the upgrade.

I'm using startx rather than gdm and was able to bring gnome 3 up.  I 
enabled orca but no speech.  
Next step is to try the version from git.

I have a basic question about at-spi.  Why do we have two version, 1.0 
and 2.0?  Do we need both versions to run orca and brltty?  Is version 
1.0 for gnome 2 and 2.0 for gnome 3?  If so, brltty may not work with 
gnome 3 because it uses version 1.0.  

Another question is about the atk-spi2 package.  Is this needed by orca?  
If not, what is its purpose?

Chris
> Michael Whapples
> On -10/01/37 20:59, Christopher Moore wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I'm running arch, but can't get the 3.0 upgrade to work.
> > When I enable the testing repo and do a pacman -Su
> > I get dependency errors starting with gnome-panel-bonobo
> >
> > How have others worked around this problem?
> >
> > TIA
> > Chris