Re: [orca-list] Orca, problem with check lists?
- From: Isaac Porat <isaac porat me uk>
- To: Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie diggs gmail com>
- Cc: orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca, problem with check lists?
- Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 05:41:49 +0100
Hi Joanie
I am running in a boxed virtual environment so not able to get to you
the log file quickly; if somebody can do this easily this would be
appreciated. Otherwise I shall find a way in a couple of days to do so.
One thing, having no sight, I am not even sure that when the spacebar is
pressed the check box is being checked at all, in other words, it may
not be an Orca problem at all but rather that the application does not
respond to the spacebar key.
Thanks
Isaac
On 05/04/2010 03:00, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hi Isaac.
On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 02:44 +0100, Isaac Porat wrote:
Hello Joanie and all
Given the "and all" part of your greeting, I'm assuming that you
intended to CC the Orca list in on your message. (It was sent only to
me). Therefore, I've done so in my response. I hope that's ok.
The following is important for updating / installing uninstalling apps
in Lucid using the gui.
Lucid includes a tool called Update Manager to update the system.
To reproduce the problem do the following:
sudo update-manager
Press spacebar on the Check button.
Wait until the tool update itself with the information.
The list of available applications to upgrade are presented in a check list.
Pressing spacebar on any of the items to check / uncheck it does nothing.
That's no good. :-( Any chance of getting a full debug.out as described
on the Orca wiki: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/Debugging?
> From there, we can take a look at the events and what Orca is doing. The
most likely possibilities, given your description, are:
1. We're not getting the expected event to let us know the state of the
checkbox has changed.
2. We got the right event, but for some reason are not doing anything in
response.
3. We got the right event, and actually did announce the state change,
but just as we started to do so, some other event came in which caused
us to interrupt speech. This can happen so fast that you never wind up
hearing the announcement you expect at all.
In Vinux Lucid in absence of an accessible application to install /
uninstall from the gui, the
gnome-app-install from Karmic is used. In this application a similar
check list is presented with exactly the same problem.
I wonder if this is a general problem of Orca with check lists or a
problem specific to these applications.
I'd bet on the latter. But I won't know until I see some debug output.
While it's an extreme drag that you're experiencing this problem, it
does seem like a very straightforward, practical thing we (as a group,
on the list) can analyze for the purpose of getting the community better
equipped to triage the bugs they come across.
--joanie
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