Re: [orca-list] Selecting Text in the Terminal

From: Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>
To: Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Selecting Text in the Terminal
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:04:30 -0500

Hi Steve:

The symptoms you describe don't necessarily match what might happen ifMouseKeys is enabled, but that might be a thing to suspect. Do any ofthe keypad keys work for you?


Will

On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

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No; I just moved on after a while.  I'm not sure what to do with the
terminal environment.  I just know in the past a while back that that
process seemed to work really well but now I just can't seem to get a
consistent bahavior.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 03:05:08PM -0500, Willie Walker wrote:

Steve:

Did you ever resolve this?  I followed your instructions at
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/GnomeTerminal#details and it works OK for
me.

Will

Steve Holmes wrote:

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I'm on a desktop here so the orca+7 key combo on your machine must be
like the keypad_slash key here.

In any case after further messing around with this, I'm seeing even
more inconsistency here.  I cannot get consistent behavior at all.
For several times, I could seem to select some text and pressing the
keypad_enter key would speak the selected portion.  But around all
this, I never saw the option open up in the edit menu for copying to
clipboard.  I know the copy to clipboard works if I choose "Select
all" from the edit menu but the flat review keys just aaren't cutting
this reliably.  I sure wish I could figure out what is going on.

On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 09:04:15PM -0200, jose vilmar estacio desouza wrote:

Hi,
No special se unless the fact that I am using a laptop and I press
capslock+7 in the begin of the text and I press shift+capslock+7 in
the end of the text.

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On 11/07/2009 03:36 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

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Nah, sure broken here<sigh>.  I used to be able to use this in
versions past on other distros but haven't done this in quite some
time.  I don't have to set anything up in advance, do I? The only
thing I notice now is when I press the slash key to begin the

selection, I usually hear nothing spoken; then when I get to theend

of the block to select, I press shift slash and I will hear "Paste

grayed shift-control-v." After that, if I go to the edit menu,thereis no option available to copy the selection. I also have noselected

text spoken when I press the kp_enter key either.

If this actually works for you, what prompts or text gets spokenwhenyou go through these steps? Also, I notice that if I press slashwithor without the shift enhancement at the end of the selectionblock, I

hear that same text I mentioned earlier; it's like no difference so
I'm getting suspicious of the shift slash key combo.

On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 11:34:20AM -0200, jose vilmar estacio desouza wrote:

Hi,
No problems with orca 2.8.1.

[]S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
http://www.informal.com.br
Msn:vilmar informal com br Skype:jvilmar
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On 11/07/2009 02:40 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:

Has anyone been able to select text in a terminal with Orca
lately? What I tried to do was position the flat review cursor
(mouse pointer) over the left most character and press the keypad
slash key to left click it. Then move over to the right most
character and do a shift-slash to complete the selection. At that
point, I would hope to have a selection on the edit menu to copy
the text. Also, if I would press the keypad enter key, I would
expect to hear the selected text. But the key never speaks any

selected text and the copy option is never shown in the editmenu.

This all makes me think the text selection feature is now broken

in Orca or something changed. I can cut/paste just fine fromother

gnome apps and I can paste previously copied text from any other
gnome app to the terminal and paste with gnome-terminal but I
can't select for copy any text in the terminal with the above
described procedure.

Any thoughts?

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