Re: [orca-list] Progress bar updates speak when not focused

[Krishnakant <hackingkk gmail com>]

Hi Wil and David,
I think this discussion is 2 fold.
1, should progress bars be announced if the window with progress bar
looses focus (that should not happen else it clutters the user's brains
as well )
2, should the progress bar only provide an update only when there is
really an update.  
The second case means that the progress bar should not be announced by
orca unless there is a change, and it should be scilent when there is no
update even if the focus is in that window.

I brought this up because I felt that is what David was refering to when
he talked about the 10 seconds gap in every announcement of progress bar
update.

Is that what you were talking about David?

happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 13:14 -0700, David E. Price wrote:
> Hi, Will,
>
> I applied the patch with no errors. Unfortunately, the result was that 
> there were no progress bar updates... absolute silence.
>
> I'll try to set aside some time this evening to generate a debug log 
> with the patch and see if there is something obvious going on. I'll also 
> try to file the bug report.
>
> Thanks for the effort,
>
> dave
>
>
> On 03/05/2009 11:40 AM, Willie Walker wrote:
> > Hi David:
> >
> > Orca currently speaks the progress bar information if the application 
> > that owns the progress bar is active.  So, for example, if you've 
> > started a download in Firefox and move to OOo, the FF download 
> > progress should not be spoken.  If it is being spoken in this case, it 
> > is a bug.
> >
> > However, it sounds as though perhaps you're working in Firefox, start 
> > a download, and continue surfing the web.  In this case, the download 
> > window no longer has focus, but Firefox is still the active 
> > application.  So, Orca is going to happily speak the progress bar 
> > information. :-( That sounds like a bug to me and a case we didn't 
> > account for.
> >
> > Please do open a bug.  Please also test out the attached patch.  If it 
> > works, attach it to the bug you open and you'll get the credit for 
> > being a hero.  :-)  If it doesn't work, just blame me and call me an 
> > idiot. I'm used to it.  :-)
> >
> > Will
> >
> > David E. Price wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would like to get a sense of the community's feel about this.
> > >
> > > Right now, if there is a progress bar in existence in any open 
> > > program, I get the update messages spoken every 10 seconds. I believe 
> > > that progress bar updates should only be spoken when the 
> > > window/dialog containing the progress bar has focus. To me, it is 
> > > annoying that, whenever I want to download something and continue 
> > > working, I get an update every 10 seconds or I have to go into the 
> > > Orca preferences to turn off the updates. I believe that requiring 
> > > the progress bar's window to have focus before any updates are 
> > > indicated can allow users to avoid a cluttered feedback environment.
> > >
> > > I'll file the RFE this weekend unless the rest of the community is 
> > > against the idea.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > dave
> > >
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