Re: [orca-list] Insert Mode Toggle

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi Steve:

> Would this feature include any possability of speaking a selected
> object or portion of an object like the row and column in a status
> line from a command such as a hotkey or active key like the tab key?
> I'm thinking of the row and column in text editors and when one
> presses the tab key or dedicated hotkey speak the current cursor
> position.

Heh - since it hasn't been written yet, this feature could do anything. 
 The most important thing is that it provide a compelling useful 
feature to help the user efficiently accomplish a task.

> Yeah, you can use the read-status line feature but then you have to
> hear the entire line as opposed to just row/column or insert toggle
> status.  I was just thinking there might be an opportunity for me to
> begin sinking my teeth into Orca development a bit.

Opportunities abound in many places. :-)  Joanie got her start by 
looking at the find dialog functionality.  You might get your start by 
looking at this feature.  It would be awesome to see the team grow.

Will

> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:59:36AM -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> > We have an RFE open for "watched objects":  
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354466.  This RFE would allow  
> > users to indicate interest in an object. Once interest has been given,  
> > Orca will notify the user of changes to that object.
> >
> > There may be something you can use now, however.  Orca's Where Am I  
> > functionality also allows you to get the information in the status bar  
> > via a keystroke.  In the desktop layout mode, this is done by pressing  
> > Orca+KP_Enter twice.
> >
> > Will
> >
> > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:20:22AM -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> > > > Hi Steve:
> > > >
> > > > There are some things we might consider here:
> > > >
> > > > 1) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536827 - Provide   
> > > > configuration GUI option to set the Orca key/modifier.  This would 
> > > > allow  you to more easily redefine the Orca key to something else.  
> > > > Right now,  you can change the Orca modifier key, but it requires 
> > > > hand editing your  ~/.orca/user-settings.py or 
> > > > ~/.orca/orca-customizations.py files.
> > > >
> > > > 2) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373387 - Users should be 
> > > >  able to lock/unlock the "Lock" modifier even if Caps Lock is the 
> > > > Orca  modifier.  While this bug talks about the Caps Lock key, the 
> > > > solution  proposed is that a double tap of the key will let the key 
> > > > pass through.
> > > >
> > > > Will
> > > >
> > > > Steve Holmes wrote:
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> > > > > After further testing, I conclude that the insert cannot be used nor
> > > > > bypassed with Orca's bypass key.  The bypass key passes through for
> > > > > other keys but not the insert key <bummer>.  I vaguely recall
> > > > > something about this now that it comes back to me.  But I did find
> > > > > another way to turn insert mode on and off though more awkward.  I can
> > > > > use the flat review keys to find the "Insert" on the status line and
> > > > > then use the numpad-slash key or left click to toggle the word.
> > > > > Recycling flat review mode will expose the new word.  It toggles
> > > > > between Insrt and Over.  I did this in Writer; haven't tried this in
> > > > > gedit but am willing to bet this might be the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:33:44AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > > > > I've been noticing that in the general purpose text editor, gedit and
> > > > > > with Open Office Writer that the insert key doesn't seem to toggle
> > > > > > insert mode for the application.  Is that because the insert key
> > > > > > serves as the "Orca" modifier key?  If that be the case, how can we
> > > > > > toggle insert mode on and off in such applications as I mentioned
> > > > > > above?  I know for a fact that the word "INS" on the status lines of
> > > > > > these applications never changes when I press the insert key and when
> > > > > > typing, I never get into over-write mode.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm using the desktop standard layout with the latest git pull of Orca
> > > > > > from this past weekend.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for any tips here.
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