Re: [orca-list] Insert Mode Toggle

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

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Thanks Will for the references.  I looked them both over and offerred
my comments.

I would like to say here that I modified my user-settings.py to only
use the KP_Insert key.  I now can toggle the insert/overwrite mode
with the standard (six pack) insert key.

This does bring me to another question though.  I would like to add
functionality to Orca to speak the word or portion of the status line
that shows the insert status when the insert key is pressed.  Are
there any suggestions as to how I could go about this? I either could
map the insert key to speak a part of the screen or somehow get the
INS or OVR to dynamically speak whenever the word changes.  Are any of
these possible? I figured that might be an easy to begin coding some
simple enhancements to Orca without bugging you guys to put this
feature in. On a similar note, I would like to create a hotkey to
speak the current row and column number in gedit.  I would think this
could be easy enough since the line and column  numbers are shown in
the status line.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:20:22AM -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> Hi Steve:
>
> There are some things we might consider here:
>
> 1) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536827 - Provide  
> configuration GUI option to set the Orca key/modifier.  This would allow  
> you to more easily redefine the Orca key to something else.  Right now,  
> you can change the Orca modifier key, but it requires hand editing your  
> ~/.orca/user-settings.py or ~/.orca/orca-customizations.py files.
>
> 2) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373387 - Users should be  
> able to lock/unlock the "Lock" modifier even if Caps Lock is the Orca  
> modifier.  While this bug talks about the Caps Lock key, the solution  
> proposed is that a double tap of the key will let the key pass through.
>
> Will
>
> Steve Holmes wrote:
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> > After further testing, I conclude that the insert cannot be used nor
> > bypassed with Orca's bypass key.  The bypass key passes through for
> > other keys but not the insert key <bummer>.  I vaguely recall
> > something about this now that it comes back to me.  But I did find
> > another way to turn insert mode on and off though more awkward.  I can
> > use the flat review keys to find the "Insert" on the status line and
> > then use the numpad-slash key or left click to toggle the word.
> > Recycling flat review mode will expose the new word.  It toggles
> > between Insrt and Over.  I did this in Writer; haven't tried this in
> > gedit but am willing to bet this might be the same.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:33:44AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > I've been noticing that in the general purpose text editor, gedit and
> > > with Open Office Writer that the insert key doesn't seem to toggle
> > > insert mode for the application.  Is that because the insert key
> > > serves as the "Orca" modifier key?  If that be the case, how can we
> > > toggle insert mode on and off in such applications as I mentioned
> > > above?  I know for a fact that the word "INS" on the status lines of
> > > these applications never changes when I press the insert key and when
> > > typing, I never get into over-write mode.
> > >
> > > I'm using the desktop standard layout with the latest git pull of Orca
> > > from this past weekend.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any tips here.
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