Re: [orca-list] mnemonic speaking missing (Re: Flag day for Orca)

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi Dave:

> The changes you just checked in didn't fix the mnemonic problem on this
> box. Also, I can't now duplicate the mnemonic being read only after
> pressing where am I a second time. However, there are two entries in the
> speech page of Orca preferences that are still not announcing mnemonics
> when where am I is pressed: Speak blank lines and speak tutorial messages.

Bummer about the automatic speaking of the mnemonics not working when 
the "Speak object mnemonics" checkbox is checked.  I tested it with the 
checkbox checked and unchecked (you need to press "Apply" or "OK" for 
the settings to take effect) and it worked fine for me.  Maybe you need 
to make sure git is behaving well?  Try doing the following to make sure 
nothing locally is causing any issues:

git reset --hard
git pull

For the two items in question -- Speak blank lines and speak tutorial 
messages -- there's a reason no mnemonics are being spoken: there aren't 
any on those objects.  We try to give almost everything a mnemonic, but 
looks like we missed a couple.  Mnemonics can be very troublesome in 
dialogs with lots of widgets because we run out of meaningful letters 
quickly.

Will

> Before I generate a debug log, I'll reboot my laptop into gnome 2.26 and
> see how things are behaving there.
>
> dave
>
>
> On 06/01/2009 10:17 AM, Willie Walker wrote:
> > Hi All:
> >
> > I just checked in a change to master to hopefully repair the mnemonic
> > speaking, with the exception of the Where Am I issue Dave reported.
> > Many thanks for testing!
> >
> > Dave - I'm not able to reproduce the where am I issue you reported.
> > Can you create a debug.log file and also provide some specific items
> > in the Orca preferences page that are showing the behavior?
> >
> > Will
> >
> > On 06/01/09 09:38, David E. Price wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I can confirm this behavior.
> > >
> > > Also, some of the items in the Orca Preferences speech page won't speak
> > > their mnemonics when the "where am I" key (NumPad-Enter) is pressed.
> > > More oddly, some of the items don't speak their mnemonics when
> > > NumPad-Enter is pressed the first time, but speak the mnemonic when you
> > > press NumPad-Enter a second time.
> > >
> > > dave
> > >
> > > On 05/31/2009 11:36 PM, Hammer Attila wrote:
> > > > Dear List!
> > > >
> > > > I try now latest Orca version. The spoken mnemonic automaticaly check
> > > > box does'nt work in speech page. When the check box is checked, Orca
> > > > does'nt say the shortcut informations my machine.
> > > >
> > > > Attila
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