Re: [orca-list] Emacs and Orca again



Hi All:

This is also not an Orca-specific problem. The problem exists when accessibility is enabled, regardless of whether assistive technologies are running or not.

As I mentioned in http://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2009-August/msg00124.html, my guess is that the root cause of the problem might be some odd main loop reentrancy issue inside emacs-gtk itself. On my OpenSolaris box, the hang really only exists when I run accerciser and is more of an unacceptable long-ish painful delay when running Orca.

While this is not an Orca-specific problem per se, however, I think it's fair to at least come up with a workaround here to get people who use emacs and Orca off the ground.

Will

On Aug 7, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Bart Bunting wrote:

Replying to my email:
I tested using emacs22 and still get the same result, orca and gnome
hanging.
This may suggest that the issue whatever it is is not so much a change
between the versions of emacs but a change in some other part of the system
perhaps metacity.

Is there anyone running say Intrepid or perhaps Hardy who can test Thomas's
script against emacs23?  If we can prove that this approach of unseting
GTK_MODULES works with emacs23 with an earlier version of gnome then we can definitively say that the fact that it no longer works is not emacs fault.

Anyone else got any ideas?

Will, do you want this discussion taken elsewhere?

Regards

Bart


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Bart Bunting
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:51 PM
To: 'Tomas Cerha'; 'Willie Walker'
Cc: peter rayner lsce ipsl fr; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Emacs and Orca again

Tomas,

This unfortunantly doesn't work for me. I guess this is similar to what I was doing by starting emacs from the console. Apparently whatever made this
work in emacs22 doesn't work in emacs23.

I'll try loading up emacs22 to confirm this.

At least if we can nail it down to a behavior change between emacs22 and 23
we may be able to give the developers a pointer.

If this is effecting emacs-gtk when orca isn't running I must ask the
question does this effect everyone trying to run emacs under gnome, which I
struggle to believe is true, or is this somehow an interaction with
accessibility support?

Is there anyone out there that can try this with and without accessibility support in gnome enabled. If it only happens when support is on then that
is another pointer we have to the issue.

Regards

Bart


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Tomas Cerha
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:06 AM
To: Willie Walker
Cc: peter rayner lsce ipsl fr; Bart Bunting; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Emacs and Orca again

Willie Walker wrote:
I've briefly chased through the bug and I'm not sure if it is metacity
or emacs.  My suspicion is that it is an emacs main loop problem as
mentioned in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392889#c18.

I didn't read the bug at all, so I don't know if it is related, but I
have the following script to be able to run GTK Emacs in Gnome:

#!/bin/bash
unset GTK_MODULES
/usr/bin/emacs22-gtk $*

Without this hack, the desktop freezes randomly when I run GTK Emacs
(with or even without orca running).

Hope it helps, Tomas
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