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Re: [orca-list] Emacs and Orca again

Hi All:

There is a bug with a long history here:

    http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392889

Will

John covici wrote:

Is there any way to get emacs to work withOrca?  I thought it used gtk
-- at least I have the gentoo use flag checked, but if you launch
emacs from the run dialog, it does not work at all, and if you launch
it from gnome-terminal, it works somewhat, but Orca reads a lot of
extraneous stuff, and read all does not work.  I have not tried this
in a few months, so my information may be obsolete.  I have the latest
of both Orca and emacs, so if anyone knows what is going on I could
file a bug against emacs.

on Friday 08/07/2009 Bart Bunting(bart ursys com au) wrote
 > Hi Peter,
> > What I meant was that I used to launch emacs from a console with the DISPLAY 
 > environment variable set to :0.  The effect of this was that when I ran
 > emacs the emacs window would appear on my gnome desktop even though I had
 > launched it from tty1 or whatever.
> > Doing it this way meant that orca and emacspeak would both function 
 > together.  I was able to use orca normaly and when I switched to the emacs
 > window orca would simply say "emacs inaccessible" and emacspeak would take
> over. > I must add that if I launched emacs from the gnome run prompt (alt f2) or 
 > from a gnome-terminal it would hang orca and or emacs.  Although the effect
 > appeared to effect orca more than emacs because when the emacs window had
 > focus emacspeak would function normaly but when alt tabbing away orca would
 > hang.
> > Another effect is that if you launch emacs and do a few alt tabs or 
 > something nothing is spoken.  However if you then switch to a console and
 > kill emacs there is a flurry of speech from orca sort of like it is now
 > catching up.
> > The current situation is that If I launch emacs from either the tty or from 
 > within gnome it hangs orca.
> > I have also tried the daemon mode of emacs, that is the multi-tty support in > emacs 23. > > Something like "emacs --daemon" will launch emacs in daemon mode and then 
 > "emacsclient -c" from within gnome brings up an emacs window connected to
 > the emacs daemon process.  I can report that launching emacs in this way
 > still appears to have orca hang.
> > Now I'm not sure if it is emacs, orca or the window manager that is to blame 
 > here.
> > I'd really like to nail down who is at fault here so I can hassle the 
 > appropriate party to get a fix if at all possible.
> > Any further insite would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards > > Bart > > > -----Original Message----- 
 > From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
 > Behalf Of Peter Rayner
 > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:27 PM
 > To: Rakesh arky Ambati
 > Cc: Bart Bunting; orca-list gnome org
 > Subject: Re: [orca-list] Emacs and Orca again
> > Another datapoint on this. First note that I'm using FC-10 which 
 > means gnome-2-24 and emacs-22.3, not exactly the latest and greatest.
 > However:
 > I usually run emacs/orca as Bart originally suggested:
 > >Previously I had managed to get them to play together by starting emacs
 > from
 > >the console and exporting the DISPLAY variable.  For reasons unknown to me
 > >this used to work around the issue of hangs in orca when emacs was started.
> >Now I've upgraded to Ubuntu Karmic and this no longer works. > -- Parenthetically I don't understand the relationship between this 
 > and Bart's next message:
 > >The difference is that you are running emacs on a console tty.
 > >What I am talking about is running emacs on the gnome desktop.
 > Which is not what I understood from the first message but I digress.
 > I usually
 > boot to runlevel 3
 > start emacspeak on virtual console 1
 > switch to VC2
 > login then run startx
 > All proceeds happily until:
 > For various reasons I need to restart the emacs on VC1
 > then everything hangs.
 > This happened even when I remembered to add the -nw flag to the
 > emacspeak startup script.  Tentative conclusion: order seems to
 > matter.
> > I used to run emacs directly under sawfish rather than in 
 > gnome-terminal and that worked fine but was also years ago.
 > Getting emacs back as a self-voicing application under orca would
 > certainly be nice. Is the bad emacs/gnome interaction bug logged
 > somewhere? The closest I see are the Ubuntu bugs 185366 and 183245
> which don't appear to have been resolved. > cheers 
 > Peter
> > > > Peter Rayner: LSCE/IPSL, Laboratoire CEA-CNRS-UVSQ 
 > address: Bat. 701 LSCE - CEA de Saclay
 > Orme des Merisiers, 91191 Gif/Yvette
 > work: +33  (1) 69 08 88 11;       mobile: +33 (6) 75 46 56 52;     fax: +33
 > (1) 69 08 77 16
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