Re: [orca-list] braille compared to speech

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi Hermann:

> > I've got a question about braille: why aren't orca-specific messages
> > printed in braille, just spoken? eg. numpad 0 and numpad enter says the
> > title, but doesn't braille it. I'm sure there are others, but that is
> > the most obvious to me... Would anyone who can code think this should be
> > added?

The Where Am I functionality is currently speech only, and I agree, we 
should braille it as well.  Can you describe more about the user 
experience you would expect?  For example, should it be a temporary 
message that flashes on the braille display?  If so, what should the 
default timeout be?  If not, what should the user experience be to 
remove the message and get you back to where you were before you did a 
Where Am I?  In addition, can you please log a bug in bugzilla for this?

> - Why isn't it possible to increase Orca's responsiveness in braille?
> When I perform any action using my braille display (Alva Satellite 544),
> I have to wait a few seconds till I see a result? And when the screen has
> a lot of content, this amount of seconds rises, so in Thunderbird with a
> large inbox.

Is the particular use case you have a specific page in Firefox?  Is it 
solely in Thunderbird?  Is it when you're doing flat review commands, or 
does it happen when you also press the up/down arrows on the keyboard?

> - Why is it not possible to use the line-left line-right commands of my
> display to scroll the screen, so for example in FF, where I have to use
> line-up line-down to scroll one line for/back and then line-left
> line-right to read the second part of the current line?

Can you try bringing up a large document in gedit and seeing if the 
behavior provided there is what you are looking for?  If so, we can try 
to put that in Firefox.

> - I set up braille to show dots 7 and 8 when text is selected. This does
> not work reliable, so in Thunderbird, where I cannot use braille to
> check what text I've selected. The same with links in FF, although I
> activated dots 7-8 to indicate focused links.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434780
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412100

> Finally: Is it possible to use Orca with braille only? This is necessary
> when working in a group, where speech might be disturbing.

You can certainly disable speech, but some things (as I'm sure you know) 
will not be presented.

Will