Re: [orca-list] braille compared to speech

[Hermann <meinelisten onlinehome de>]

On 21.09.2008 at 22:22:19 Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM> wrote:

> Hi Hermann:
>
> > - Why isn't it possible to increase Orca's responsiveness in braille?
> > When I perform any action using my braille display (Alva Satellite 544),
> > I have to wait a few seconds till I see a result? And when the screen has
> > a lot of content, this amount of seconds rises, so in Thunderbird with a
> > large inbox.
>
> Is the particular use case you have a specific page in Firefox?  Is it
> solely in Thunderbird?  Is it when you're doing flat review commands,
> or does it happen when you also press the up/down arrows on the
> keyboard?
With keyboard no. The flat review tends to react a little slow, but once
invoked, it is usable with the keyboard and speech.
The slowest reaction I see on the braille display when using its
keys. It's not program specific, but it seems to depend on the amount of
text/objects shown on the screen.
For example: Braille reacts pretty fast on the desktop and very
sluggish, for example, in Thunderbird when in a list of many mails.

> > - Why is it not possible to use the line-left line-right commands of my
> > display to scroll the screen, so for example in FF, where I have to use
> > line-up line-down to scroll one line for/back and then line-left
> > line-right to read the second part of the current line?
>
> Can you try bringing up a large document in gedit and seeing if the
> behavior provided there is what you are looking for?  If so, we can
> try to put that in Firefox.
OK, I'll try it.

> > - I set up braille to show dots 7 and 8 when text is selected. This does
> > not work reliable, so in Thunderbird, where I cannot use braille to
> > check what text I've selected. The same with links in FF, although I
> > activated dots 7-8 to indicate focused links.
>
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434780
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412100
I'll take a look at that.

> > Finally: Is it possible to use Orca with braille only? This is necessary
> > when working in a group, where speech might be disturbing.
>
> You can certainly disable speech, but some things (as I'm sure you
> know) will not be presented.
The goal should be to make Orca fully usable with braille only, so that
it can compete with the Windows screen readers.
Hermann