Re: [orca-list] form field structural navigation

[Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie diggs gmail com>]

Hi Hermann.

> the main tester is back again ;-)

Had you gone? ;-)

> Visit:
> http://www.google.de 
> or
> http://www.google.com
> or
> http://www.gmx.de
> Check the form fields forward and backward. I found out, that especially
> when I move backward, Orca doesn't land on the fields surely.

There is admittedly some hacking going on here to set the caret position 
as  Firefox doesn't always reliably update our location when we 
grabFocus on form fields. :-(  That said, when I tried the sites you 
suggested, I landed on the fields as expected in both directions. 
So.... Can you give me an exact sequence of keystrokes where it reliably 
fails, or is it a "hit or miss" sorta thing?

> problem, so what about redefining, for example "f"?

As Mike indicated, that was the original plan.  However, if you used "f" 
 and landed in an entry, the next press of f would cause an f to be 
typed.  The same thing would potentially be an issue for combo boxes and 
lists.

> Next problem: When I've visited several sites, doing search on the last
> one, pressing Orca+Shift+Tab, I hear the whole history, e.g. Orca tells
> me where I've been before and then says where I've landed.

Again, can you give me a specific set of keystrokes/steps to reproduce 
the problem?

> Finally a very annoying thing: When pressing the form navigation keys,
> Orca does not release the modifier key. Result: If you press the arrow
> keys, you decrease/increase rate or pitch.

Yikes!  That's no good. :-(

At the risk of sounding like a broken record:  Is there a specific set 
of keystrokes/steps.... :-)  If I can make the problem reliably happen 
on my systems, it is far easier to track down where things are breaking.

I will leave the key assignment issues to y'all and Mike to work out.  I 
am, as Rich recently said.... somewhere.... about himself:  When it 
comes to the UI, I am but a humble minion. :-)

Thanks for all the feedback and testing!  I will see what I can do to 
get these things sorted out.
Joanie