Re: tarting orca

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Cody:

Glad to hear you got speech working.  I'm not sure I'd feel  
comfortable with someone calling Gnopernicus crappy and old (I've met  
the team and they are a good bunch of folks), but I'm glad you  
finally had some good success with Orca!

Can you share your experiences with what was going wrong?  Was it a  
hung speech driver that you needed to kill, or was there something  
else you needed to do?

Will

On Apr 5, 2006, at 8:10 PM, C-DOG wrote:

> hi willie!
>  I got speech working, its amazing. a lot better then crappy old  
> gnopernicus, more responsive, and itsworks with evolution mazingly.  
> I do have one question...
>  how can I navigate in a IM window in gaim?? thanks a million
> c
> ody
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Walker"  
> <William Walker Sun COM>
> To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: tarting orca
>
>
> > Hi Cody:
> >
> > There could be several problems happening here.  If speech isn't
> > working, you might need to debug that first.  Here's a fast pass I  
> > made
> > on the WIKI for debugging speech (please let me know of changes you
> > think would be helpful to make it clearer - I wrote it at night  
> > when I
> > was kind of tired):
> >
> >  http://live.gnome.org/Orca/GnomeSpeech
> >
> > If the goal is to start Orca when you log in, however, you have a  
> > couple
> > of options.  One is to tell your Linux distribution to not bring the
> > graphical login up when it boots.  The method for doing this
> > unfortunately varies by distribution.  With this option, you can add
> > orca to your ~/.xinitrc file and then start the graphical desktop  
> > using
> > xinit.
> >
> > Another option is to bring up the System->Preferences->Sessions
> > application (also known as gnome-session-properties from the command
> > line) and add orca as a startup program.
> >
> > In either case, you might actually want to point to a script that  
> > starts
> > orca - that way you can do some pre-run cleanup of stuff if needed
> > (e.g., kill synthesis drivers that might be hung and such).    
> > Attached
> > is a script that does some of this pre-run cleanup.  I'm not really
> > advocating its use too widely, though, because Orca should not  
> > rely upon
> > this kind of thing for proper behavior.  Instead, it should be  
> > able to
> > gracefully recover from bad things as much as possible or at least  
> > give
> > you an informative message about what's causing it pain.  But, it  
> > should
> > at least be able to help you get going.
> >
> > Will
> >
> > On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 12:12 -0700, C-DOG wrote:
> > > hi will,
> > >   but what is a way to avoid this? I mean, running orca from the  
> > > terminal
> > > probably wont' do the same thing will it? I have tried starting  
> > > orca from
> > > the gnome terminal and minimising the terminal, and using it but  
> > > get no
> > > speech.
> > >
> > > cody
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Walker"  
> > > <William Walker Sun COM>
> > > To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:14 AM
> > > Subject: Re: tarting orca
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Cody:
> > > >
> > > > This looks like it might be related to a GTK+ crasher:
> > > >
> > > >   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326362
> > > >
> > > > The main culprit that makes it happen seems to be the run  
> > > dialog.  If
> > > > you can avoid doing that until the crasher is fixed by the gtk  
> > > folks,
> > > > then things might go better for you.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps,
> > > >
> > > > Will
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 20:38 -0700, C-DOG wrote:
> > > >> actually I can get through the setup, if I type orca in the  
> > > terminal
> > > >> then it will say welcome to orca. this does not happen in the run
> > > >> dialogue in the gui of gnome it just crashes the pannel.cody
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>         ----- Original Message ----- >>         From: Mike  
> > > Pedersen
> > > >>         To: 'Orca screen reader developers'
> > > >>         Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:44 PM
> > > >>         Subject: RE: tarting orca
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>         Hello Cody,
> > > >>            I have opened a terminal and typed
> > > >>
> > > >>                 orca-setup
> > > >>
> > > >>                 I get a prompt asking me which voice I want. I  
> > > can't
> > > >>                 quite understand the 2 options, so I select  
> > > one, then
> > > >>                 i am asked for speak echo charactors, I say Y  
> > > for yes,
> > > >>                 after this I get no speech, what is going  
> > > wrong? I
> > > >>                 have managed to get this far. I still can't  
> > > get out of
> > > >>                 a terminal window, is there another type of  
> > > setup I
> > > >>                 need to do?
> > > >>
> > > >>                 After you finish orca-setup you will not have  
> > > speech
> > > >>                 until you type orca.  What happens if you type  
> > > orca in
> > > >>                 the terminal prompt?
> > > >>                 Mike
> > > >>
> > > >>
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