Re: [Nautilus-list] Nautilus Goals

[Ben Ford <ben kalifornia com>]

Seth Aaron Nickell wrote:
> > This man's needed feature is about a hundred-fold increase in speed 
> > before I will even consider using it.  Konqueror does all these nifty 
> > things too, but hey, it's much faster . . .
> >     
>
> The only areas I know of where Konqueror is significantly faster is 
> opening new windows and memory usage. Nautilus currently opens new 
> directories, particularly large ones, significantly faster, copies files 
> faster (barely, but a little), loads web pages marginally faster (this is 
> really attributable to mozilla 0.9.1, but whatever).... If Nautilus 
> performs slower on your machine in particular areas, I would really 
> appreciate a message with your machine specs and stopwatch timings on 
> specific operations.
>
> Saying "Konqueror is faster" doesn't help much at all...
>     
OK, how bout if I say "Konqueror is MUCH faster"?
    
Sorry for the HTML, but I tire of pandering to the "I can't take HTML even
tho it makes life so much easier" crowd.

Task:	Nautilus	Konqueror
Cold start (no relevant processes running)	18 seconds	12 seconds
Warm start (close file manager, then while helper processes are running, start another)	10 seconds	3 seconds
Open directory in current view	4 seconds	1 second
Open directory in new window	8 seconds	2 seconds
Open/View 3.1k text file	3 seconds	1 second.
Open/View 58.k jpeg file	4 seconds	3 seconds

In Konqueror, options such as view text preview and view image preview were
on.  Nautilus is mostly as shipped, except desktop management is turned off.
 It is unbearably slow for many common operations, such as switching the
virtual desktop.
    
Everything about this test was exactly the same.  The same directories were
opened, the same files were viewed.
    
Also worth noting is the list of processes left running when Konqueror exited.
> ben      18296  0.0  2.0 17296 5188 ?        S    17:20  
> 0:00 kdeinit: dcopserver --nosid
> ben      18298  0.0  2.2 17736 5788 ?        S    17:20   0:00 kdeinit: klauncher
> ben      18300  0.0  2.1 17320 5664 ?        S    17:20   0:00 kdeinit: kded 
>       
> ben      18302  0.0  1.8 17012 4704 ?        S    17:20   0:00 kdeinit: Running...
> ben      18303  0.1  2.1 17452 5444 ?        S    17:20   0:00 kdeinit: kio_file
> file /tmp/ksocket-ben/klauncher8jSg8b.s
> ben      18304  0.2  2.5 17968 6692 ?        S    17:20   0:00 kdeinit: kio_thumbnail
> thumbnail /tmp/ksocket-ben/klaunch
>       
      
These processes killed themselves within 10 seconds of Konqueror being closed.
 On the other hand . . . .
      
> ben      17636  0.5  2.3 11720 5936 ?        S    17:14  
> 0:01 nautilus-throbber --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_thro
> ben      17645  1.3  3.7 15360 9576 ?        S    17:14   0:02 hyperbola
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:hyperbola_factory:02b
> ben      17647  0.4  2.2 11612 5920 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-history-view
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_
> ben      17649  6.1  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:13 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17651  0.3  2.1 11608 5648 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-notes
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_notes_v
> ben      17669  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17670  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17671  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17673  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17674  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17676  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17679  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17681  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17684  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17685  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17686  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17687  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17688  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17689  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17690  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17691  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17693  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17694  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17696  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17920  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      17922  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:14   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      18044  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:15   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
> ben      18045  0.0  3.4 59860 8812 ?        S    17:15   0:00 nautilus-news
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:nautilus_news_vie
>         
>         
>         
The Nautilus processes had to be killed manually.
        
The machine used was a PIII 450 with 256MB ram.
        
$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        257524     218568      38956      65552       9476      88388
-/+ buffers/cache:     120704     136820
Swap:       265064      35268     229796
        
$ uptime 
  5:53pm  up 13 days, 23:20,  8 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.13, 0.14
        
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo 
processor    : 0
vendor_id    : GenuineIntel
cpu family    : 6
model        : 7
model name    : Pentium III (Katmai)
stepping    : 2
cpu MHz        : 453.176
cache size    : 512 KB
fdiv_bug    : no
hlt_bug        : no
sep_bug        : no
f00f_bug    : no
coma_bug    : no
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 2
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
pse36 mmx fxsr xmm
bogomips    : 904.40
        
        
        
        
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