Re: GNOME Mobile release notes
- From: Dave Neary <bolsh gnome org>
- To: Stormy Peters <stormy gnome org>
- Cc: GNOME Mobile <mobile-devel-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: GNOME Mobile release notes
- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:38:40 +0200
I just noticed that the release notes webpage hasn't (yet) caught up
with the wiki, which is still the reference for this stuff:
Until it does, please feel free to make changes to the wiki (but know
that I will be editing ruthmessly afterwards ;)
Stormy Peters wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> Thanks for putting this together. I think in the first paragraph we
> should add a sentence about why it's good to use the same desktop apps
> on mobile.
> In the list of components, it would be nice to put a phrase next to each
> one that says what it does or what it's for. With some indication of
> whether it's the standard desktop app or it's been modified for GNOME
> Mobile or if it's been developed specifically for GNOME Mobile.
> And I liked the idea of calling it the GNOME Mobile development platform
> or SDK.
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Dave Neary <bolsh gnome org
> <mailto:bolsh gnome org>> wrote:
> Hi Esben,
> While this discussion is certainly opening doors (and, to be honest, I'm
> interested more because it betrays the wildly varied expectations that
> people have of something like GNOME Mobile), it's quite off topic to the
> subject of writing release notes for what we are actually shipping &
> promoting now.
> We're not shipping a complete mobile environment - this is more like the
> GNOME Mobile SDK, a set of core components that *are* appropriate for
> mobile environments (and which, doubtless, have their own problems we
> should be identifying and addressing).
> Does anyone have any input on the GNOME release notes in terms of
> content or style? The latest version is in
> http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/ (username: davyd,
> password: 2.22)
> Esben Stien wrote:
> > Jim Gettys <jg laptop org <mailto:jg laptop org>> writes:
> >> It is insane to think that "one size" will fit all with the
> >> different screen sizes, for all values of gnome tools and
> >> applications.
> > Right, but with some minor tweaks, case in point, the gnome panel,
> > should work just fine.
> >> Some of these issues are best worked by replacement components
> > Some are, of course, but not the panel. I also think that a gnome
> > screen saver that works with touch screens is not a specific
> > domain. Very soon large flat panel displays will be touch screens, so
> > this is a general issue; it just first hit the mobile camp.
> >> The panel is probably one of these, and for which there are
> >> (possibly adequate, possible inadequate) alternatives.
> > Well, I want my gnome panel. If the gnome panel can't display icons
> > instead of text, then that is just simply a bug that needs to be
> > fixed. If this is too hard, then the whole gnome panel is so badly
> > written that it should be abandoned for all platforms. I don't believe
> > that gnoeme-panel is that badly engineered, so this is simply a
> > feature that we need.
> >> Thankfully things are modular enough that such replacements are
> >> possible.
> > You want to replace gnome-panel because it can't display icons?.
> >> before complaining about a particular component, the first question
> >> should be: does it make sense to use want to use that component in
> >> that context?
> > I certainly think it does. When running a device like the neo
> > freerunner, a normal day to day situation is displaying an app that is
> > usable with fingers and you can launch different applications and
> > such, but this shouldn't hide the fact that it's just an
> > application. If you minimize this window, what you have is a desktop,
> > the welcoming friendly gnome desktop.
> Dave Neary
> GNOME Foundation member
> bolsh gnome org <mailto:bolsh gnome org>
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