Re: GNOME Mobile release notes

[Dave Neary <bolsh gnome org>]

Hi Esben,

While this discussion is certainly opening doors (and, to be honest, I'm
interested more because it betrays the wildly varied expectations that
people have of something like GNOME Mobile), it's quite off topic to the
subject of writing release notes for what we are actually shipping &
promoting now.

We're not shipping a complete mobile environment - this is more like the
GNOME Mobile SDK, a set of core components that *are* appropriate for
mobile environments (and which, doubtless, have their own problems we
should be identifying and addressing).

Does anyone have any input on the GNOME release notes in terms of
content or style? The latest version is in
http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/ (username: davyd,
password: 2.22)

Thanks!
Dave.



Esben Stien wrote:
> Jim Gettys <jg laptop org> writes:
> 
>> It is insane to think that "one size" will fit all with the
>> different screen sizes, for all values of gnome tools and
>> applications.
> 
> Right, but with some minor tweaks, case in point, the gnome panel,
> should work just fine.
> 
>> Some of these issues are best worked by replacement components
> 
> Some are, of course, but not the panel. I also think that a gnome
> screen saver that works with touch screens is not a specific
> domain. Very soon large flat panel displays will be touch screens, so
> this is a general issue; it just first hit the mobile camp.
> 
>> The panel is probably one of these, and for which there are
>> (possibly adequate, possible inadequate) alternatives.
> 
> Well, I want my gnome panel. If the gnome panel can't display icons
> instead of text, then that is just simply a bug that needs to be
> fixed. If this is too hard, then the whole gnome panel is so badly
> written that it should be abandoned for all platforms. I don't believe
> that gnoeme-panel is that badly engineered, so this is simply a
> feature that we need. 
> 
>> Thankfully things are modular enough that such replacements are
>> possible. 
> 
> You want to replace gnome-panel because it can't display icons?. 
> 
>> before complaining about a particular component, the first question
>> should be: does it make sense to use want to use that component in
>> that context?
> 
> I certainly think it does. When running a device like the neo
> freerunner, a normal day to day situation is displaying an app that is
> usable with fingers and you can launch different applications and
> such, but this shouldn't hide the fact that it's just an
> application. If you minimize this window, what you have is a desktop,
> the welcoming friendly gnome desktop.
> 


-- 
Dave Neary
GNOME Foundation member
bolsh gnome org