Re: mc-4.6.1-20060912.patch

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Pavel Tsekov wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Thomas Dickey wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Pavel Tsekov wrote:

Do you mind to post a reference to that discussion so it can be verified ?

Here's another (though I still don't see the particular one I had in mind)

By the way the following statements are quite incorrect:

"MC "could" be built with ncurses, but its maintainers have been not
much interested in maintaining that configuration(*)."

mouse doesn't work with ncurses, hasn't for more than four years.
I also noted with interest Pavel Roskin's comments four years ago
proposing to remove all of the ncurses support from MC (google isn't showing me the comment, or I'd provide a URL for your amusement).

I'm looking forward to see how "much interested" plays out...

"(*) equally, since MC for quite a while used gcc-specific code which would not compile with an ANSI C compiler, I was uninterested in wasting much time with it. "

yes - I encountered that (compound statement) sometime in the 90's, considering whether to provide a copy of it for my development group, found that it wouldn't compile, deleted it and resolved to not touch it until that was fixed. I revisited that more than once, and if you take the time to search on my newsgroup postings, you'll notice that I commented on this more than once.

When working on my patch this week, I grep'd for the compound statement,
didn't find it - and didn't find any mention of it in the changelog.
In any case, you would presumably agree that "quite a while" refers to
a span of years, which is accurate.

I myself am using MC with ncurses most of the tmie. The Cygwin package
for MC, which I maintain, is compiled against ncurses. I have spent
considerable amount of time tracking bugs in MC to make it work
correct with ncurses.

I build MC on my Solaris 10 machine on a regular basis with Sun's
compiler. I've also built MC on Tru64 with Compaq/HP's compiler.

You sound like a recent (post-2000) developer - not knowing the longterm history of the program. My first encounter with it was on the order of ten years ago. I don't use the tool, but recall email from Miguel asking
about my directory editor.

You seem to try to spread misinformation regarding MC
on every possible occasion as you did in the Debian bug
tracking system.

hmm - it's your mailing list, but as usual, I'm reporting what I've observed.

"Spreading misinformation" is a nice way of calling someone a liar.
Don't be surprised if I regard you as poorly informed.


Thomas E. Dickey

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