Re: GNOME 3 videos

[will kahn-greene <willg bluesock org>]

"Miro" is a desktop media player application.  You can download it at
<http://getmiro.com/>.  It has nothing to do with this conversation.

"GNOME Miro Community" is a web-site that indexes GNOME videos
regardless of where they are on the Internet.  It is at
<http://gnome.mirocommunity.org/>.  I often abbreviate it as GMC.  The
site doesn't host video.  The site is not a channel.  GNOME Miro
Community is not like YouTube or Vimeo.

I'm concerned that I have to keep clarifying this.  It suggests to me
that GNOME Miro Community is making this situation worse rather than
helping.  If that's the case, Allan is right and we should ditch it in
regards to the marketing strategy for GNOME3.  I don't know who needs to
decide this, but I'd like to know sooner rather than later so I don't
continue to put my time and energy into something that's not going to be
used especially now where I've got a ton of other things going on.  For
some reason half my life is due between March and April.


On 03/07/2011 01:10 PM, Allan Day wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-03-05 at 17:07 -0500, will kahn-greene wrote:
>> On 03/05/2011 04:22 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 14:27, will kahn-greene <willg bluesock org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This last bit is kind of important.  The last time I checked, you
>>>> couldn't access the html5/webm version of YouTube without an account and
>>>> without being logged in.
>>>>
>>>> If that's still the case, then I can't do the html5/webm versions on
>>>> GNOME Miro Community.
>>>
>>>
>>> According to this you can force HTML5 with &html5=1 on the video URL in the
>>> IFRAME player:
>>> https://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=3999166edeabe3da&hl=en
>>>
>>> I tried it on Firefox 4 and it didn't work but it did work on Chrome. The
>>> video I tested was this one:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok100U4Fo3Y&html5=1
>>>
>>> Can you try it with some existing Miro video from YouTube and see if it
>>> works? Note that you must use the IFRAME player.
>>
>> To clarify, "Miro" is a desktop media application.  GNOME Miro Community
>> is a web-site that runs on the Miro Community service.  So "Miro video"
>> doesn't mean anything to me.
>>
>> I tested your YouTube video link GNOME Miro Community using the
>> <iframe...> embed code from that page and it doesn't work--only uses the
>> Flash Player:
>>
>> http://gnome.mirocommunity.org/video/4157/guadec2010-neelie-kroes-on-ope
>>
>>
>> This isn't a problem with GMC.  I have the same problem on a basic web-page:
>>
>> http://bluesock.org/~willg/test/gmc.html
>>
>>
>> I went through the google.com support thread at the link above and
>> fiddled with the <iframe...> code to no avail.  As near as I can tell,
>> right now you can't embed the html5/webm format.
>>
>> /will
> 
> It would appear that we have three GNOME video channels: YouTube, Vimeo
> and Miro. Would it be possible for us to decide and focus on one? This
> kind of fragmentation makes it difficult for us to have an integrated,
> high-quality communications strategy.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Allan