Re: Request for comment (marketing team): release date for GNOME 3.0

[Claus Schwarm <clschwarm googlemail com>]

Hi, Paul!

I'm sorry to say, but I don't agree.

Another half a year is not going to change the benefits. They are
either there or not. If you can't tell me -- right now -- what the
benefits are, there are not there. It's as simple as that.

Also, another half a year is not going to change much about existing
materials. There are either enough people here on the list to make it
happen during the next _five_ months. Or not.

If there are not, another half a year isn't going to change much.

I'd say it doesn't matter if GNOME 3 comes in April or October. If we
can't deal with April, we will not be able to deal with October,
either.


Best regards,
Claus

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Paul Cutler <pcutler gnome org> wrote:
> Hi Marketing team!
>
> Jason, thanks for adding your thoughts.  I'd love to hear what other
> Marketing team members have to say as well.  We've talked a bit on the
> mailing list about some GNOME 3.0 marketing campaign ideas, but I think we'd
> need more time to develop them and get the materials, including video ideas
> that both Sri and Jason have talked about.
>
> My biggest concern about GNOME 3.0 is change - change is hard and my
> personal goal for the Marketing team would be to have well thought out ideas
> and materials that communicate the benefits of GNOME 3.0 to end users and
> introduce the new ideas in GNOME 3.0 to users months before the actual
> release, and I don't think we're ready to do that with a March release.
>
> Add your ideas and thoughts!
>
> Paul
>
> Personally, I'd recommend September and 2.32 to become 3.0.
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Jason D. Clinton <me jasonclinton com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Le mardi 03 novembre 2009, à 11:02 -0600, Jason D. Clinton a écrit :
>>> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > The release team is gathering comments from various teams to get a
>>> > > proper idea of which of March or September 2010 is more appropriate
>>> > > for
>>> > > the release of GNOME 3.0. The decision for the release date is
>>> > > following
>>> > > what we set in the 3.0 planning document [1]: we want 3.0 to be out
>>> > > in
>>> > > 2010, but we also want to make sure that 3.0 is rock-solid; your
>>> > > input
>>> > > will help us take an informed decision.
>>> > >
>>> > > It'd be great if someone could summarize the status of the work that
>>> > > is
>>> > > being done in your team, and how March or September would work for
>>> > > you.
>>> > > We know the marketing team has a plan, so we want the timing to be
>>> > > good
>>> > > for this plan too.
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > Vincent, we are having a hackfest next week in which we will all talk
>>> > about
>>> > this so I would like to defer this discussion until after that hackfest
>>> > in
>>> > Chicago.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I know, but the timing isn't really good for us, unfortunately :/
>>> We'd prefer to have some good data this week. If you think it's not
>>> possible to give any input before the hackfest, that's fine, just tell
>>> us this :-)
>>
>> I *really* want to produce 20-30 second
>> these-are-the-cool-things-you-can-do-with-a-fully-integrated-desktop videos
>> that are distributed with GNOME 3.0 and promoted via YouTube. For that to
>> happen, we need the Shell in a semi-final UI state, a number of
>> Telepathy-related things on the horizon to be demo-able and whatever is
>> going to happen with Zeitgeist/Journal/Tracker/Nautilus to be resolved. In
>> short, I think that Sprint 2011 is a more realistic time frame for
>> a truly polished, well marketed release. However, with enough hustle and and
>> some vocal leadership, I think we can make September 2010 work.
>> As a side note, it appears to me from closely following the Red Hat 3D
>> driver development that a really polished 3D driver experience sans
>> crashers, without regressions and great performance is likely at least that
>> far away.
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