Re: [gtk-osx-users] Using localization with "Application" menu with the gtk mac integration library.

[John Ralls <jralls ceridwen us>]

On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Joshua Pettus <jshpettus gmail com> wrote:

> I see, 
>
> Harm Geert Muller, his name, just created a window called “About Xboard” and had it display some text, and 
> licensing info.   I don’t think anyone really is all that expert in the intricacies of GTK.  Mostly he is 
> moving things over from the ancient x11 athena set, and I’m sure you have an idea how limited that system 
> is. It is still incomplete and no real experts ever came out of the woodwork.
>
> It seemed weird for the integration library to hijack the menu item and put something that was already 
> there. :)
>
> Again, thanks for the info!
> Joshua Pettus

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Most applications use a GtkMessageBox for the About dialog, but that’s separate from the menu item. Just have 
him make the menu item “_About” and the translation will work.

On the other hand, since this seems to be largely a learning exercise — there’s absolutely no need for XBoard 
in Gnome, which already has a fine Chess app (https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Chess) — perhaps the two of you 
should be learning to use Gnome's modern application infrastructure, 
https://developer.gnome.org/gio/unstable/application.html, rather than using deprecated features and 
libraries.

Regards,
John Ralls


> El oct 6, 2014, a las 10:17 AM, John Ralls <jralls ceridwen us> escribió:
>
> > On Oct 5, 2014, at 8:20 PM, Joshua Pettus <jshpettus gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > For the record, the reason why “About Xboard” wasn’t translated is because HGM took that string and made 
> > > it to output  “About” which broke translations.
> > >
> > > This is because the gtk integration library questionably adds the application name after “About”  I’m not 
> > > sure why it’s necessary.  If there is an About menu item there, it was moved from somewhere else, and it 
> > > almost always already had the application name affixed to it. I understand why it was done for the other 
> > > items which are put there by the library.
> > >
> > > I’m sure there is another solution for us to remove the second xboard in the about menu item,  but I 
> > > don’t understand why we have too.
> >
> > The Gtk stock item GTK_STOCK_ABOUT and its replacement, the help_about named icon, yield _About,  no app 
> > name. That string is translated in the gtk translations.
> >
> > It sounds like your problem is that HGM, whatever that is, messed up: If it used _About, all would be well.
> >
> > gtk-osx-integration expects the Gtk stock item and adds the app name to comply with Apple's HIG.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls