Re: GTK+, WM, desktops and CSD

[Allin Cottrell <cottrell wfu edu>]

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015, Florian Müllner wrote:

> The worst thing that can happen when the toolkit forcefully rips 
> CSD from applications is that there is no more UI to save, 
> navigate, load or whatever essential UI the applications happens 
> to put into its decorations.

Isn't there some dissonance here: "essential UI" embedded in 
"decorations"? How did we come to this? I can sort of see why if 
metacity is taken as the baseline, since metacity in its default 
appearance suffered from a severe case of macroencephaly: a huge 
wasteland of bare forehead holding a bloated boldface window title 
and little else. But why not fix the WM (not all WMs waste anything 
like that amount of desktop) rather than conflating UI with 
decoration?

Allin Cottrel