Re: GTK+, WM, desktops and CSD

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015, Florian Müllner wrote:

The worst thing that can happen when the toolkit forcefully rips CSD from applications is that there is no more UI to save, navigate, load or whatever essential UI the applications happens to put into its decorations.

Isn't there some dissonance here: "essential UI" embedded in "decorations"? How did we come to this? I can sort of see why if metacity is taken as the baseline, since metacity in its default appearance suffered from a severe case of macroencephaly: a huge wasteland of bare forehead holding a bloated boldface window title and little else. But why not fix the WM (not all WMs waste anything like that amount of desktop) rather than conflating UI with decoration?

Allin Cottrel

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