Re: Planned "Sound Settings" improvements

[David Henningsson <david henningsson canonical com>]

[Adding Colin Guthrie to cc]

On 11/16/2011 05:48 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 17:41 +0100, David Henningsson wrote:
> <snip>
> > Once we start the upstreaming process towards GNOME, we'll base that off
> > what that is the current development version at that point. We'll make a
> > Sound Settings version for Ubuntu 12.04 first, and I assume we'll base
> > that off GNOME 3.2, as the rest of 12.04 will be based off GNOME 3.2.
> <snip>
> > I'm assuming that when we start upstreaming stuff, there might be things
> > you don't agree with, and if so, that you (or someone else from upstream
> > GNOME) will then be reasonably helpful - we'll help each other to sort
> > those things out and fix things up. Does that make sense?
>
> That's not really how working upstream works though.

Other upstreams I've been working with have been reasonably helpful.

> If you give me a
> huge blob of code just before Ubuntu 12.04 is released and I need to
> hand-pick things for GNOME 3.4, it'll probably just sit there in
> Bugzilla.

I wonder if Gnome 3.4 is a realistic target here. Colin, do you think 
we'll have a PulseAudio 2.0 out in time for a new UI to make it into 
Gnome 3.4, or would Gnome 3.6 be more realistic?

Also, if we're not agreeing on all changes, and we're clear on what 
parts of the rewrite that are being appreciated and what parts are not, 
I believe it makes sense for us to make a patch set with those things 
included that Gnome wants only.

> > > > And finally a question:
> > > >
> > > > I tried hard to fit the pixel margins of 675x490 in the mockup. But may
> > > > I ask what hardware we're actually targetting here? It seems like most
> > > > netbooks [1] are either 800x480, in which case 675x490 won't fit, or
> > > > 1024x600, in which case there should be plenty of more, at least on the
> > > > width side? Or am I missing something?
> > >
> > > As I mentioned in:
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomecc-list/2011-October/msg00018.html
> > > the target size is mentioned in:
> > > https://live.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings#UI_Patterns
> > >
> > > "675x530px" though probably below 490px in height to fit on all netbooks
> > > (except the original Asus eeePC, but really).
> >
> > Yes, both 675x530px and 675x490px is taken from the page you just
> > quoted. My point is that I don't understand what screen resolution that
> > would match? On the height it seems to match against 600 pixels of
> > screen resolution, but according to this page:
> >
> > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Comparison_of_Netbooks
> >
> > ...all netbooks which have 600 pixels height also have 1024 pixels
> > width. Which should leave a lot more width to the system settings
> > application than just 675 pixels. Could explain where the "675" number
> > comes from?
>
> It's fixed width. It prevents too much dead space, and widgets reflowing
> if we had a something resizable. 675 fits on every resolution we
> support. Why the exact 675, I don't know though.

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

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