Re: Design choice for suspend option only

[clemens <clemens lab21 org>]

Everybody that is able to install linux + gnome-shell without internet
connection should be able to press the alt button or open a terminal 
and use one of the approximately 42 methods to shut down.
And if its really that important to have the button grep + vim will help
you.


Am Freitag, den 02.03.2012, 10:44 -0600 schrieb Josh Leverette:
> again, not everyone has an internet connection and they should not
> have to download a shut down button. Making it an option in the
> settings dialog is a perfectly acceptable design decision.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Josh
> 
> On Mar 2, 2012 10:39 AM, "Diego Fernandez" <aiguo fernandez gmail com>
> wrote:
>         On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Diego Fernandez
>         <aiguo fernandez gmail com> wrote:
>          On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Adam Tauno Williams
>          <awilliam whitemice org> wrote:
>         > On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 13:01 +0000, Mark Blakeney wrote:
>         >> Can somebody please post a reference to a discussion
>         amongst the gnome3
>         >> developers about why they decided to only provide a suspend
>         option on the
>         >> user menu (and hide the power off option with the alt
>         modifier)? I would
>         >> really like to know by what rationale they came to this
>         astonishing
>         >> decision?
>         >
>         > Oh crap, not this again.  This has been discussed over and
>         over and over
>         > and over, and, yes, over again.  I promise you nobody here
>         is interested
>         > in hearing about this *AGAIN*.  The horse is dead, and
>         covered with post
>         > mortum bruising.  Please don't kick it anymore.
>         >
>          Lol... poor horse!
>         
>          Yes, MANY of us agree it's a horrible design decision. No,
>         they're not
>          going to change it.  Yes, it is a shame. No, it's not worth
>         trying to
>          continue fighting it.  As for the OP, just tell people the
>         decision
>          was made because nowadays most people only suspend their
>         computer and
>          the designers thought people get confused when presented with
>         multiple
>          options.  If they don't like the decision, install the
>         extension for
>          them.
>         
>         > I have no idea where the 'reference discussion' is.  Search
>         the
>         > archives,  you'll find tons of crap about this.
>         >
>         >> I like and promote gnome-shell but frankly it is
>         embarrassing to have to
>         >> apologise for this design choice to new users. It leaves an
>         awkward first
>         >> impression.
>         >
>         > So enable the extension that changes the behavior, then be
>         happy.
>         >
>         <https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/5/alternative-status-menu/>
>         >
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